When you say I'll be in the group as if I were interacting with it,
are you meaning that if I use groups mode it would do that? Right
now, I got groups mode turned off. I may try it though at some point.
Chris.
On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
Hello,
It is a kind of problem that many on the list have had a bit of a
thing with. Basically, vo+f command will only find things on the
page which are actually visible on the screen whereas in Jaws it
would scroll the entire content of the webpage to find the text you
are looking for. So in Leopard this command has a very limited use I
feel.
However, you can accomplish a similar result by using vo+i command
for item chooser menu where you can type your string and it will
find a selection for you to choose from on the entire page. Then you
hit the enter key on the one you wish and voiceover cursor will land
on it. If it's a link you can activate it. If it is a piece of text,
you can explore around it. Be aware that if the text you are looking
for is a part of the group on the webpage, when exploring round the
text, you will be within the group as if you had first chosen to
interact with it. You have to stop intearacting with it to get out
of it to move somewhere else on the page. Hope this helps, Simon
On 20 Sep 2008, at 15:19, WWJD wrote:
Hey guys, I'm noticing something a little bit peculiar over here.
The only thing that I suspect, is maybe I am not quite
understanding the concept of this, but who knows.
Basicly, here's the thing:
Ya know how if you do a vo+F, how it'll say search Text, then you
can type a search query and hit return? Like, here: let me give
ya an example:
If you for instance, go to ACBRadio.org in Safari, then after
interacting with the html content, assuming you're not like me, and
have it set to do that automatically, then you hit vo+F, then try
typing in the word "listen" obviously, without the quote marks. I
only put those there to show you what I was stating to type. LOL!
Anyway, so, put that, then hit return. Boom. You land on the
listen link. It's kind a like in JAWS under Windows, doing a
virtual find. Well, where I am however getting a little confused,
is I've noticed this command not to be very reliable. I have seen
that about 75 to 80 percent of the time, it won't work. It just
throws mee right back on the item in the web page that I already am
in. Now, one thing I will! say to yall, is, I have voiceover set
to not! wrap text. Meaning when I reach the right most edge of a
line, it just makes a bwank, kind a sound, and won't wrap. I
think it's under navigation in the voiceover utility. In any rate,
I say that as I dono if that would be a facter here. I don't think
it would, but I'm trying my hardest to reason logically through
this in my head. Anyway, I see that 3 quarters of the time I do
this, it just lands me back, like I say, on the item that I was
already focused on. So, this leads me to basicly wonder if: Is
this command in Voiceover really all that reliably dependable, and
if so, have yall had good success with it? The other thing that I
wonder, is could it be, that the reason it is not working a lotta
the time, is cause the item that I queried and searched for, isn't
visually visible on the screen. In, other, words, could! it be,
that, maybe, it only works if the item you are searching for is
currently on the physical screen. I wonder if it only works with
those items. Meaning, let's say we have a web page, and you gotta
scroll down the page, to see what you searched for. Because you
had to scroll, as that item isn't actually visually on the screen,
I wonder if thus, the vo+F isn't seeing it. Like maybe if I
scrolled down the page then! diddit, it maybe then! it would a
worked, as it would have seen the item. This is just my
observation of theory. I never clamed it to be right, however,
aside it being logical, that is the only thing I'm basing this on.
So, someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's honestly slightly
annoying. Yeah, I know there is the item chooser menu, and yes, it
does work extraordinarily well, but, I just am so used to being
able to do the old find command, and it work, even if the item's
not on the actual screen, that it's gonna be a little weird me
breaking that habbit.
Anyway, if yall have any ideas, I'd really be interested in hearing
what you gotta say.
Chris.
