On Windows, Winamp can sync your IPod and on Linux Songbird, Amarock, Banshee and many others can sync with it.

Thanks for listening,
Alex,


On 20-Sep-08, at 6:31 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:


On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:50 PM, WWJD wrote:

So, if you ever got an IPod, how do you expect to transfer things to it, if you're not using ITunes.

And why is it that just because we own an Apple computer we'r automagically going to get an iPod? Personally, I have issues with something being seemingly so tied to one platform (i.e. iTunes) that there's no real flexibility for working with it in some other way. It's good in one way, which is both Apple's strength and Apple's weakness: everything works together pretty seamlessly, and in a very stable way with few crashes and few headaches. This, at the expense of hardware flexibility. It's a model radically different from the PC model, and it has real advantages. It also has real disadvantages if you want something different than what's offered to you. A friend of mine and I were having this general discussion last week, and Apple's closed system was a real deal-breaker for him. Not so much for me, so long as I understand and am willing to live with the limitations such a system has built in. For an OS that I want to use to get work done, I'm happy to live in Apple's world. It works, it works very well, and I like the thought processes that went into Voicover's interface and, by extension, into the user interface for MacOSX generally. I'm not quite sold on extending that closed system to my music wants and portable media, however. Yes! Having a talking iPod is super! Having an off-the-shelf device that talks pretty nearly out of the box is a giant step forward. I'm just not convinced that I want to be or need to be locked into iTunes to have it. The fact that many of the tracks available are DRM-free goes a long way to swaying me, but it hasn't gone the whole way. DRM, by the way, is one of the biggest reasons I haven't jumped right on Audible, although I've been and am sorely tempted by the content. I still have philosophical issues.

So. What if I want an iPod? What if I don't, and a Sansa, or an IAudio, or an Olympus, or a Victor Reader Stream, is good enough and meets my needs just as well?


Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "erik burggraaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: ITunes Alternatives


Hum. VLC is a little clunky, but not near as bulkey as ITunes. I wish I could like ITunes, but after a month of constant scrapping I finally just gave up.

I think the minor problems I have with vlc will eventually get fixed and we will have something really good... I hope.

Now the new ITunes and the fact that you can rent movies interests me. I'm not a movie/tv fan in the slightest, but every once in a while some one will recomend a movie, or there will be something thatevery one has seen except me. Or some one who really likes movies, like friends or family will be here and it might be useful to have.

I haven't got motivated to play around with it yet though. I got as far as updating to the new ITunes 8. Yesterday I opened it by accident when I wanted quick look and now the table of sources isn't reading properly for me. It's making the swoosh noise that page loading makes on the internet. Then it starts to readthe highlighted item but before it can really get started on that something refocusses the table and it says one row selected.

I just don't know.

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On 20-Sep-08, at 3:44 PM, Tiffany D wrote:

I swear, this is not meant to offend anyone. I can't understand why
everyone is so hooked on ITunes.  I personally use VLC Media Player
and love it.  So is anyone else on here like me?  If you don't use
VLC, what's your ITunes alternative and how accessible is it with VO?

Thanks,
Tiffanitsa


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