Hi Fonzie,

On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:02 AM, Alfonzo Cuellar wrote:

I had a question about other players like the windows zune.

a friend of mine has one, and was curious as to if I could actually use the windows zune to sync on the mac, so that I could take songs from the device, and or add songs to the device.

reason I ask is because, a friend of mine was thinking of getting a mac, and she has a Windows Zune. She would rather keep the player around if she can, and not purchase another device if possible.

I heard there was windows zune software that was needed to both use the device on your computer, and download stuff to it.

Unfortunately, for the Zune at least, the answer is that Microsoft has included protection that does not allow file transfers with computers that have not been authenticated with them.

In general, the situation of the Mac's compatibility with other players runs all the way from certain Creative players that will actually appear as recognized devices in iTunes (showing up under the devices category of the Source Table, similar to the iPod) to players that are just recognized as external devices in Finder (as though they were attached memory sticks), to which you can transfer music with VoiceOver's drag and drop as though you were moving files in FInder.

Many MP3 players can be handled with a freeware program called XNJB, which was developed by a Mac user who owned one of the Creative Players that did not automatically get recognized in iTunes, and the software has been extended to support other players. This program is highly accessible, and is available from:

http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/

Here is their statement about support for the Zune:

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There has been much excitement recently about getting XNJB to work with the Zune. Unfortunately Microsoft have put some protection on file transfers so the Zune has to authenticate with the host computer before files can be transferred. So currently XNJB will only show a list of songs and files on your Zune. You cannot (yet) upload or download anything. If anyone knows how to get around this then please let me know. I will start working on this soon thanks to linux.com who have kindly given their Zune to the project
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Regular music files (without DRM copy protection) can be transferred to non-iPod players and played. The newest Creative player will play iTunes Plus tracks (non-DRM, higher bit rate music purchased from the iTunes Store that uses AAC encoding). If you have players that you authorized with Audible on a Windows machine, I believe that any Audible audiobook tracks you transfer from your Mac to that player will play. (The problem is that the non-iPod players usually require firmware updates and an authentication method that is only supplied under Windows, while for iPods the Audible authorization is performed automatically through iTunes on your Mac.)

IPods formatted on the Mac now let you transfer purchased music from the iTunes Store from your player to iTunes, so you can take an iPod synced to your iTunes library on a different machine, and possibly with different content, and transfer these tracks into your iTunes library on a second, new machine. As long as your library is authorized to play your purchased music (up to 5 computers), these tracks will play. You may even be able to transfer tracks from an iPod formatted for your Windows iTunes account to one on your Mac (I don't know whether this is true, but it's a possibility; it certainly wouldn't work in the other direction since while Macs can read Windows formatting, Windows cannot read Mac formatting).

Does anyone own a Windows Zune, and have used it on their mac?

If so, could you let me know how you went about it, in both adding, subtracting, and downloading content to the device itself?

Hope this answers your question. Maybe someone owns a Zune and can say more?

Cheers,

Esther

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