press enter on the song.
On Sep 23, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Esther wrote:
I imported the album, thanks to help on that earlier issue.
Now i noted that when i want to play a song, double clicking on it
in the table just makes the wush sounds and then says no selected
item or something
it is as if the focus is not remaining on the table as in previous i
tunes
Has anyone else noted this?
Hmm, there have been other posts recently about instances where focus
in iTunes has been finicky, but this seems to be a general Leopard
thing, not something that started with iTunes 8. I've been finding
small instances of this kind of glitchy focus behavior ever since I
moved to Leopard and it's not specific to iTunes. But I can't tell
whether it started with the OS 10.5.4 release or whether it has always
been present in Leopard, since I've only been using Leopard for a few
weeks.
When you move to the Songs table, you can try to first interact (VO-
Shift-Down Arrow) with the table and make sure that you hear you're on
a specific row before you navigate to the song you wish to play. That
seems to make focus move there. How are you navigating to the Songs
table? In Tiger I used to prefer using the tab key to move between
the Sources Table, the Search Text Field, and the Songs Table, or to
optionally tab through the three browser fields for Genre, Artist, and
Album before reaching the Songs Table if I had toggled the browser on
(Command-B). It was faster and reliable. Under Leopard I cannot
reliably navigate iTunes by tabbing. When I can navigate by tabbing
in iTunes, there are no focus problems of the sort that you find, but
frequently tabbing does get me to the area I wish to go to, so I use
VO-keys plus the arrow keys to move around.
Examples (in recent posts) of the glitches in focus:
• Simon's difficulties adding whole albums of tracks at once to a
playlist (Subject: Adding whole albums to a new list in iTunes with
VoiceOver) -- fixed by forcing an interaction with a specific item --
any item -- in the Songs outline -- before trying to do his Select All
(Command-A) and bring up a contextual menu to add to playlist.
Details in this archive post:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg41967.html
• Multiple people (Cara, Scott, Simon, me) not getting information
that we've reached the end of the displayed region of the Table of
Playlists that you can select on the Nano 4G's Music tab. Since this
is a scrolling table you need to periodically interact with the scroll
bar and move down the displayed region by pressing the down arrow key,
then pressing escape to leave this mode. Otherwise, you won't be able
to check the boxes to select playlists outside the displayed part of
the table. (Based on the alert information I get on my MacBook when
this works, the displayed table covers 8 rows, so moving down the
scrolling region with 7 or 8 presses of the down arrow works well.
Other Macs with larger monitors may display more rows). Simon posted
about this, and the details are given in this archive post (Subject:
Content transfer to the iPod Nano 4G):
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg42164.html
• Chris found that navigating the browser in Leopard gave strange
results when he tried executing searches and tabbing. (This problem
was not seen in Tiger). This was a very long thread, but see the
description of the problem in this archive post: (Subject: iTunes
Browser's acting really weird):
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg41387.html
• Olivia was having difficulty bringing up the contextual menu in the
Songs table with (VO-Shift-M), but using Control-Click (hold down the
Control key and click the trackpad button or mouse button) worked.
(This was before iTunes 8, and I also saw instances where VO-Shift-M
stopped working, but where a hardware click like Control-click would
work -- Will, your double-click was probably a "software click" if you
held down the Control, Option, and Shift keys and tapped space bar
twice. The Numpad Commander "click" of pressing the number "5" on a
keyboard with a number pad seems to classify as a "hardware" click).
i guess though that if i connected my IPod the new album i have just
imported from my hard disk would get synced automatically to my IPod
Yes, if you have auto-sync on an iPod Classic this should transfer.
You might want to check the device tabs (Stop interacting, then VO-
right twice from the Sources Table when the iPod is connected) to make
sure the preference syncing settings under iTunes 8 are what you
want. I think the podcast sync options are different.
Another way that you can check that your tracks transferred (assuming
you get around the focus glitches for track selection<grin>) is to use
the "Show in Finder" (Command-R) command. This pops up a Finder
window showing your selected track in its folder. You can also
navigate and Quick Look -- by pressing space bar to start and stop the
Quick Look -- any of the music tracks that were transferred in that
folder. You'll hear each track start playing.
HTH
Cheers,
Esther
