Hi ester,

I tried this but when I went back to look, the changes did not stick.

On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Jeff, Simon, and Others,

Jeff asked about putting his imported audio book tracks into the Audiobooks category of iTunes. Simon is quite right in his explanation that, until now, only certain files, such as audio books purchased from Audible.com or from the iTunes Store, would appear under the Audiobooks category of iTunes (and hence, in this category on the iPod).

However, there is a new feature of iTunes 8 that will allow you to move imported audio book tracks that you have ripped from CDs or which were MP3 files added to your library, into the Audiobooks section of iTunes and keep them separate from your Music library. This involves editing your selected tracks with the "Get Info" (Command-I) command, and changing the value of a new popup button for "Media Kind" from its default value of "Music" to "Audiobooks". When you apply this change, your selected tracks will automatically be moved from "Music" in your Source list to "Audiobooks". The corresponding tracks on your iPod will also be shifted from the "Music" menu entry to "Audiobooks" the next time you sync your iPod, and the changes to the iTunes database are read.

The easy way to apply this change is to edit multiple tracks at once with "Get Info". Editing multiple tracks has also been given new options in iTunes 8 to make the editing process easier. I'll describe how to change these settings, and then make suggestions for a few other things you may want to check or amend while you are using 'Get Info" that can help keep your library better organized.

1. Start iTunes, and navigate (with VO-right arrow) to the Sources Table, then interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow) 2. Navigate to "Music" (by pressing the first few letters "M U" or by using VO-down arrow or up arrow).
3. Stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow)
4. Navigate to the "Text List" button with VO-left arrow (four times) and press this button (VO-space) to ensure that you are in list view mode. (You can skip this step if you have issued this command before and know that a list of your tracks -- rather than albums -- will be displayed in the Songs Table. There is also a keyboard shortcut, Command-Option-3, to set your View to list mode.) 5. Navigate to the "Search Text Field" (VO-right arrow from the "Text List" button, or VO-left arrow from the "Sources Table")
6. Type in the name of your audio book and press return
7. Navigate to the Songs Table (VO-right arrow) and interact (VO-Shift- Down Arrow)
8. Select all tracks (Command-A)
9. Get Info (Command-I)
10. A dialog window will appear asking you if you are sure you want to edit multiple items. Press return to indicate that you do. 11. A dialog window will appear for Multiple Item Information. In iTunes 8 you will hear a summary announcement of the items you can edit for your entry tab setting, The first time you use Get Info this will be the Info tab for Album, Artist, Composer, and other details. This is a great place to clean up the entries for your iTunes library to ensure that Artist names have the same spelling and that consistent naming was used for the audio book titles on different CDs. However, we won't use this tab to change your audio book status. 12. Use item chooser (VO-I) and type in "tab". You'll get a list of the 4 available tabs under the Get Info menu, including your current tab. VO-Down Arrow to the Options tab and select it (VO-space or return) 13. Navigate (VO-Right Arrow) past "Media Kind" to its popup button. Change this (VO-space) from "Music" to "Audiobook" 14. Continue to navigate with VO-Right Arrow past "Remember Position" to its popup button. Change this (VO-Space) to "Yes" 15. Continue to navigate with VO-Right Arrow past "Skip when Shuffling" to its popup button. Change this (VO-Space) to "Yes" 16. You can VO-Right Arrow through the entire Options menus. You'll hear "checked check box" beside every entry that you flagged to change, so you can review your selections. The "Remember Position" option will bookmark the last played position. The "Skip when Shuffling" option will keep these tracks from being mixed in with music track playback. Either press return or navigate to the "OK" button and press it (VO-Space) to register your changes.

Other tips: If you need to get back to a dialog window from the main iTunes window, or vice-versa, bring up the Window Chooser menu with VO- F2 (issued twice). There are tips in the archives about the "Make Bookmarkable" AppleScript. This is a handier way to put audio cd tracks that you rip from CDs into the Audiobook menu, and you can even set up a keyboard shortcut for it, but the present method will work in general. An even better way to select your albums, and tracks is to use the File Browser menu in iTunes, which you can toggle on and off with Command-B. I haven't described it here, because it would require different navigation instructions, and would also require me to make assumptions about how your tracks have been tagged.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Esther



On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

Geoff,

Yes, you should be able to do this. Unless Itunes recognises the book you are importing as an audiobook of a certain format like AAC which is the format audible.com uses, it will place it in the music folder with all your songs. This is my understanding and experience so far. I think there may be a setting in the import menu of Itunes to set the import format to AAC but you will have to check that out. THis setting has to be chosen I think every time you import your books because you may not wish to use this format for importing music in between.

First, find your book in the music folder. If you remember the title of the book file you have imported, you can interact with the song list in the music folder and type a few letters in the name column of the table which might make it faster for you to locate it. Once you have found it and VO is on the title, press the vo+shift+m for the contextual menu. From this menu choose add to playlist submenu, expand it with right arrow and start typing the name of your audio books folder after which you should find it. Press enter on it and your book will be added to your audio books folder you have created. Remember that the book file will still remain in your music folder so when you sink it with your ipod, it will still be among your songs. However, it will also be in your audiobooks playlist so that you can find it more easily. Removing your book file from the music folder will probably remove it altogether from Itunes.

Hope this will help. Simon
On 26 Sep 2008, at 15:36, jeffrey greene wrote:

Hi Guys,
Ok, well i imported some of my audio books into itunes. For some reason they went into the main music library instead of audio books. I didn't think this would be an issue and i made an audio books playlist. But, when syncing my music playlist and audio books playlist to my ipod the music and books all end up in the same folder mixed together. Is there a way i can move my audio books from music library to audio books in itunes, and hopefully keep audio books and music separate on my ipod?
Thanks, Jeff Greene

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