Hello there Victor, how are you doing?

I hope all is well with you.

Do the following to enable spaces.  By default, they are not enabled.

VO+M to go to your apple menu. Here, you will want to head to system preferences.

Now, use VO + Navigational keys to navigate to Expose and Spaces. Alternatively, you could just tab through these if you do not want to use VO and navigational keys.

Now, activate the button, and you will be in the preferences for Expose and Spaces. Do this with VO+Spacebar.

Use VO Navigational keys to navigate to the Spaces Tab. If you are not in there already, just use VO+spacebar, once you find the Space tab, to get into the spaces preferences.

In here, you will find the general stuff for adding, removing, and binding applications. The first two options are, enable spaces, and show spaces in the menu bar. Enable both of those. Alternatively, if you do not want to use the menu bar icon for spaces, you don't have to. If you enable it however, this will allow you to immediately access the icon. To do this, press VO+ M and tap M again. This will take you to the menu bar, and the first thing you will be focussed on will be the spaces menu, allowing you to choose what space you want to go too. Remember, the Show in Menu check box must be pressed here.

Now, navigate to the bottom, and after the assigning spaces area, and binding applications area, you will hear a section called Keyboard and Mouse Shortcuts. In this area there are several options.

To Activate Spaces. This is the direct key, and by default, it is set to F8. The popup button is right next to this option, should you want to change it. Note: If you use this command, you will be unable to hear what spaces you are going too. Though, you will be able to go up and down, and left and right. Should you run out of options to browse through, whether it be up, down, left, or right, you will hear hte sound that lets you kno there are no options. It's that blurpy type sound, never could describe it too well.

To Switch Between Spaces is the next option. Next to it is another popup button, to define keys. By default, nothing is there, so pull down the popup button with VO+Space, and navigate to Control +Arrowkeys. There are other options if you want them, so you can find one to your liking. Note: VoiceOver will not tell you what space you are switching do if you use this type of command. You will be switch to a space, but you will not hear what spaces you are switching too.

The next option is Switch Directly to a Space. Right next to it is another popup button. Pull down that button with VO+Space, and navigate to Control+NumberKeys. There are other options in there, should you want to map it to another key. Note: this is a good option, as you will know what space you are going to, and overall, I think it is the best secondary option. VO will not announce what sspace you are going too, but you will at least know what space you are in immediately.

I would stick with the menu icon and the switch directly to space. They are both good otpions, and allow you to know what space you are going too. This is just my opinion however, and you can use what you like.

I hope this helps out.

Take care

Fonzie


On Oct 13, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Victor Tsaran wrote:

Hi Jacob,
Thanks, I think this trick actually worked. But as of now I cannot seem to be able to use spaces at all. I've added couple of applications to different spaces, but when trying to navigate within a particular space, I get dings and that's all.
Vic

Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hey
Oops, forgot to mention that an actual mouse click has to be done on that button, it's a pop-up button that isn't coded as a pop-up button. So, put the voiceover cursor on it, route mouse to voiceover with vo-command-f5, then do vo-shift-space for a click. that will pull down the menu properly. If you ever encounter a button that won't activate in any other situation this is probably what it is. This isn't a Voiceover bug, but rather an unusual way of implementing a pop up menu, as rather than being made as a pop- up button it is a regular button control that pulls down a menu in response specifically to a primary button click event and no other events will trigger it including the default clicked event.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 15:09, Victor Tsaran wrote:
Hi Jacob,
OK, didn't click right away, apologies for that.
I was able to find the "add application binding" button but I cannot activate it with either SPACE bar, ENTER key or with VO +space, i.e. nothing happens when I try to activate this button.
Any ideas?
Vic


Victor Tsaran wrote:
I don't see any "add application" binding. I only see "add row" or "add column". Is this within Spaces itself inside the System Preferences?
Thx,
V
Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi
To bind an application to a specific space, you want to press the "add application binding" button.


On Oct 11, 2008, at 22:43, Victor Tsaran wrote:

Hello guys,
I tried this some time ago but either there is no answer to this problem or I have missed your replies. I am trying to set up several spaces. I figured out how to add/ remove spaces, but I cannot figure out how to add applications to the space. Help says to press + or - to add/remove apps, but nothing gets close to this description.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
V










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