Hey Victor,

I would imagine it's one of those things that, currently, there's no option for in the OS. For example, if you turn the screen brightness down to 0 percent and reboot, the brightness will always automatically increase to a minimum value upon startup. I guess it would be useful for a sighted person when logging in or whatever. I guess the assumption was made that, no matter what, a sighted person would be totally lost if visuals were hidden, the screen curtain was on or the screen brightness was zero upon startup. All of which, of course, wouldn't matter to a blind person but...

Cheers.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Tsaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:15 PM
Subject: Anybody knows how to make visuals hide by default?


In my various tests I've discovered that Voiceover visuals interfere with features needed by "visuals", meaning sighted people. It seems though that every time VO starts, visuals, such as VO frame, are displayed on the screen. It is easy to verify because right after VO's start, you can hide them by pressing CTRL+OPTION+F11. I went into VO pannel, disabled everything relevant I could think of, but visuals still come up every time I start VO.
Thoughts?
V



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