Hey, thanks, Guys!
Will try your site, David, when I have some time. Busy all day today and
tomorrow and every third Wednesday with an MCLE [Mandatory Legal Education
Education] seminar. Other than that, I am chief cook and bottle washer here,
as handyman, 'farm worker' <smile> tending to me critters and 1 acre of
land.

Thanks, ever so, everyone!

JG


> On Dec 8, 2008, at 07:39, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I don't remember much about tiger.  In fact, I am surprised tiger even
>> supports safari 3.2.1.  I did not have safari crash much in tiger though.
>>  I
>> used safari with web pages just fine though.  There never has been a real
>> fascility to read pages automatically and for me that is not a big deal
>> because I can read articles automatically in several ways.
>>
>> You can find a lot of good help in:
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
>>
>> It does take some time to get to know the mac os and vo.  It has been
>> reported that snow lepoard will be released before May so perhaps it will
>> make things easier still.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Introduction John Bannick
>>
>>
>> What I mean is that I cannot have VO to read to me the content of web
>> pages
>> via Safari 3.2.1. Used to use FireFox but it would not read outloud the
>> web
>> pages; and, since FF was an HD hog as well as a RAM hog and I only have
>> about 20 gigabytes left on my iMac G4s HD, I went back to Safari after it
>> was upgraded to the point of no longer crashing. My iMac G4 is a Power PC
>> Computer running Tiger. Now also have a MacBook Pro running Leopard but am
>> just beginning to learn the ins and outs of Leopard; mostly, through Apple
>> -
>> Leopard Guided Tour video. My MacBook Pro is Intel Core 2 Duo with 160
>> gigabyte HD and the only thing I've done to it is to install Adobe
>> Photoshop
>> Elements 6 and my Epson Scanner and Epson Printer software. Have too much
>> else to do to be able to spend as much time as I would like on the 2 Macs.
>>
>> Hope this helps explain things. When I have time, will check Apple's site
>> at
>> Support/VO accessibility with web pages. Help files on my Macs don't seem
>> to
>> help. Also, have not yet figured out how to use VO with iTunes although
>> with
>> the latest updates was informed that it was possible.
>>
>> Thanks for asking and for helping.
>>
>> JG
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM, David Poehlman <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  What do you mean when you say you cannot access web pages?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
>>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Introduction John Bannick
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, welcome, John! Pleased to have you aboard.
>>> Would love to be able to access web pages with VoiceOver. At moment
>>> haven't
>>> figured out how. I understand from a PC user friend that his JAWS for
>>> Windows also cannot access his web pages. Perhaps, there is something I
>>> don't know about how to access web pages via Voiceover?
>>>
>>> about 10 years ago I tried to get a Kurzweil Reading Machine but in no
>>> way
>>> could I afford one.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work.
>>>
>>> JG
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM, John Bannick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My name is John Bannick.
>>>>
>>>> Your group was recommended by Tom Ward, who moderates the Audyssey
>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>> I build accessible computer games. Most recently, I just ported our
>>>>
>>> (7-128
>>>
>>>> Software) entire inventory, including 18 blind accessible games, to the
>>>> Mac.
>>>>
>>>> So that's why I'm here. To ask you what you want in the way of
>>>>
>>> audio-based
>>>
>>>> computer games, whether entertainment or educational, to ask technical
>>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>> questions that are of more general applicability than appropriate for
>>>>
>>> your
>>>
>>>> Developers forum, and to meet interesting Mac people.
>>>>
>>>> BTW. Did you know that the Kurzweil Reading Machine for the Blind
>>>>
>>> included
>>>
>>>> a copy of the text-based game, Zork? I was told that Stevie Wonder
>>>> called
>>>> us when he accidentally triggered it while reading a book.
>>>>
>>>> John Bannick
>>>> Chief Technology Officer
>>>> 7-128 Software
>>>> www.7128.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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