An update for anybody following this thread...

I wanted to install Leopard on to an external drive, just so I've got
something to boot up over Christmas... geek factor is firmly set to on
here!  Thought I'd do that before I got into toying with Terminal and
disk warrior and suchlike.  Amazingly, the setup assistant sees my old
macintosh HD volume and from the filesizes everything looks fine.
It's transfering over just over 100 GB as I write, which may take a
while yes, but it looks like this might save my bacon.  If this does
work, it leads me to think that it's most likely to be something along
the lines of volume headers being corrupted or other such stuff that I
know nada about like Tim suggested rather than mechanical failure.  Is
that a sensible assumption?  Again assuming this works, I was planning
to go for a format of the internal drive and a reinstall, but is there
any checks I can do on top of the usual disk utility stuff to get a
better idea of whether my hd is on its way out?

Cheers
Scott

On 12/24/08, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Yes, it is version 4 that I use.  You can download it from the vender
> right away so you don't have to wait for the Cd to arrive.  If you
> decide to give it a try, let me know and I'll give you some tips that
> should help.  It's actually a very quick process once it starts and
> well worth the cash in my mind.
>
> Later...
>
> On 24-Dec-08, at 8:45 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>> yup, doesn't look like archive and install is gonna be a choice here
>> because the leopard installer doesn't even give me macintosh hd as an
>> option to install onto.  ugh!
>>
>> I guess I'm gonna have to stump up the cash for disk warrior from
>> somewhere.  Tim, the accessibility issues you mentioned, was that
>> using version 4 out of interest?  I can get a set of eyes on this over
>> christmas if needs be, but it pains me to put down that much cash for
>> software that I can't use.  If it's the only way, so be it.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Scott
>>
>> On 12/24/08, David Poehlman
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Ah, I remember, when this happened to my macbook, I could not install
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2008, at 10:25 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>
>>> also, remember that if you perform an archive and install, your data
>>> will not be lost.
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David - this all sounds like its worth a shot.  I'm a complete
>>> terminal rookie though, so is there any chance you could mail me over
>>> the commands I'd need to mount disks and move files?  Archive and
>>> install is something I haven't tried yet, I guess I could use that to
>>> archive to my external hd and work on getting the data out once the
>>> mbp is back up and running right?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 12/24/08, David Poehlman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> if you can get the hd mounted from terminal, you should be able to
>>>> move the data.  Then, it should be possible to do an erace-install.
>>>> it might even be possible to do an archive and install by booting
>>>> from
>>>> the leopard dvd.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey folks, I have here one very unhappy macbook pro, hopefully
>>>> someone
>>>> on here has ideas that I haven't yet tried to get him back on his
>>>> feet.
>>>>
>>>> So the other day, I boot the mbp up, get the usual chime sound, the
>>>> apple logo comes up, stays there for a minute or so, and the mbp
>>>> turns
>>>> straight back off.  "not good" says I.  I can't think of anything
>>>> I've
>>>> installed or changed lately to cause this.  I've tried holding
>>>> option
>>>> and forcing it to boot from macintosh HD with the same result,
>>>> holding
>>>> shift key for safe mode with the same result, holding s for single
>>>> user mode with - you guessed it - the same result.  I've booted from
>>>> my Leopard DVD and tried varifying and repairing the volume from
>>>> Disk
>>>> Utility there.  In both cases, I get an error that says "filesystem
>>>> varify or repair failed", and ocasionally I get a "the underlying
>>>> task
>>>> has failed" instead... uh oh!  Some frantic Googling later, I found
>>>> myself in terminal trying to repair the volume with fsck_hfs because
>>>> it seems some folks have had more luck this way, but no joy.
>>>> Terminal
>>>> does give me messages about an invalid sibbling link though
>>>> sometimes,
>>>> which while it isn't what I want to hear, at least it's something a
>>>> bit more specific.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any thoughts, they'd be so worth a shot.  I've got 100
>>>> GB or so of data on this thing that isn't backed up (yep,
>>>> apparently I
>>>> can be that stupid).  I have space on an external drive that I just
>>>> picked up, if I can only figure out a way to get the data off and go
>>>> for a clean install.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> & Carter the Canine
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
>
>

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