Also works on the early MacBook keyboards.

Everett


----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Jurgensen" <[email protected]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: Imaging my Mac for backup and rescue


Hi,

That is for CD's on the old PPCs.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 10-Jan-09, at 6:00 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

I saw in the manual a set of keys for botting directly to a particular drive
I know that one of them is c held down while booting.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <[email protected]>
To: "'General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby
theblind'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Imaging my Mac for backup and rescue


Hi Jacob,

Thanks for your reply.  So just to make sure I am understanding this
correctly, when option key is pressed at bootup, a list of bootable devices are shown from left to right in order of device IDS, or in groups such as
cd/dvd, USB, hard disks etc?  Thanks again for your help with this,

David Truong

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Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 9:58 AM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  X by
theblind
Subject: Re: Imaging my Mac for backup and rescue

Hi David
Just hold down the option key at boot-up and your boot devices are in
order from left to right. So, the partition (if more than one) on your
first drive, then the second one, etc. So, no need for the BIOS--Mac
doesn't even have the same BIOS as PCs do, it's got EFI instead with
enough bios compatibility to run other operating systems in the case
of Intel Macs. In the case of PPC Macs it has Openfirmware. So, no
bios to worry about.



On Jan 9, 2009, at 18:22, David Truong wrote:

HI Jacob,

Is there any way a totally blind person can specify the boot
sequence of a
mac or is it like windows where you have to do it within the bios
therefore
needing sighted assistance?  Thanks for any info on this.

David Truong

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 6:46 AM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by
theblind
Subject: Re: Imaging my Mac for backup and rescue

Hi
For a bootable clone backup you'll need a USB drive, as you cannot
boot from a time capsule. However, you can clone to an image stored  on
the time capsule if you don't need it to be bootable. In general,
however, it's best to keep separate backups on separate drives. That
way if, for whatever reason one of them dies, you don't lose both of
them.




On Jan 9, 2009, at 15:35, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

Ah ok, wil it be ok to use Superduper with a time capsule?  Or would
it be better to get a USB drive, and use it with that?
On Jan 9, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:

Hi Dan
Time Machine and Super Duper are equally accessible, but they're two
different solutions to the backup problem. What super duper does is
make a clone backup of your disk, bit by bit, onto another disk or a
disk image. If cloned to another disk, that disk is bootable in the
event your main system goes down--i.e. you can boot off of it and
get your OS X system as it was at the point when you last cloned it.
Time Machine is an incremental backup solution, one designed to be
able to restore your machine in the event of a failure, but also to
be able to pull backups as they existed at a certain time or date.
It is an archival backup solution, in that it stores numerous
backups that you can open and retrieve files from at any time.
However, time machine backups are not bootable, you must first boot
off your OS X cd to perform a restoration of a time machine backup.
Super Duper doesn't do this, when you clone your drive with it you
get a copy of your disk as it was at the point you cloned it. If you
clone your system again to the same disk at a later point, the old
clone is overridden.
Which is the best depends on what you want from a backup. Of course,
you could always be safe and do both of them--a time machine for
normal use and keep your clone up to date every so often in case the
hd in your mac goes down and you need a bootable system right away.
If you're happy with time machine, though, I see no reason not to
stick with it.


On Jan 9, 2009, at 13:15, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

I'm currently using time machine for backups to a time capsule, is
Superduper in any way more accessible as far as restoring your
backups?  Or would it be beneficial to use both to back up to the
same drive?
On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Esther wrote:

Hi Mike,

There are two programs that you can use to create bootable clones
of your hard drive, since you're talking about imaging and dd in
linux.  Cabon Copy Cloner is available from Bombich Software and is
freeware.  SuperDuper from Shirt Pocket Software is $28, but you
can use it in clone-only mode for free.  Both these programs can
also update only files that were changed since your last backup.
SuperDuper has an extensive manual that includes explanations about
basic concepts behind backups and has a chattier dialogue, so some
people prefer it for this reason. Both work fine.

Cheers,

Esther

P.S. On the Intel Macs you can boot from a cloned disk with either
Firewire or USB connections.  On earlier model Power PC Macs this
could only be done via a Firewire connection.  I'm just mentioning
this because some of the furor about Apple's dropping the Firewire
port on the new late 2008 MacBooks was centered around issues like
this, and other ways to restore through Firewire such as target
disk mode.

On Jan 9, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Michael Ryan wrote:



Hi all:

Is there a program available for OSX-10.X Leopard that will allow
you to create an Image of your hard disk for backup and restore
purposes?
Something similar to Part Image and DD in Linux? If something
happened, I would hate to have to re_install everything from
scratch. Not a Problem mind you but it would be a pain. I'd like
to Image my perfectly functioning system, complete with installed
aps and files and just restore it if something major occurred.

TNX all:

Michael







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