Hi Jessica 

I listened to your piece with interest.

I have to say I agree with you on all points on accessibility and usability. In 
fact well said.

Good luck with the job search.

Mark
--- On Wed, 14/1/09, Jessica L. Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Jessica L. Arnold <[email protected]>
> Subject: access and use
> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the 
> blind" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 3:43 PM
> okay. I just want to say to the person who said they though
> usability was the word that was being looked for.
> I just want to say that I agree with them and that is what
> I was trying to say anyway.
> A lot of people confuse accessibility with usability up.
> And call usability accessibility. And although there are
> similarties they are not the same.
> An accessible applicaiton for example is an app that you
> can access. YOu can use in some way shape or form. It may
> not be friendly it may not be as nice as you would like it
> butyoou can use it. With cursors and such and even mouse
> clicks
> And inaccessible applicaiton is one that for whatever
> reason programming or other thing that makes the application
> totally unusable you cannot access it in any way shape or
> form no matter how hard you try.
> Maybe it is just me. And yes I could be picking at things
> here.
> But one thing I have noticed in the blind communit that
> really is beginning to bother me is this quesiton all the
> time is something accessible.
> When really what they are asking is can I use this
> applicaiton.
> I have ran into more applications that are
> accessible/usable than I have run into applications that are
> inaccessible. And don't challenge me on that please. I
> could  not name off to you all the applicaitons I have used
> over the years. First there are too many and second I
> wouldn't be able to remember them all anyway.
> Even the dashboard on the mac is accessible an? d some
> wigets that come with it. Now is it nice? No. It is not. Or
> at least I haven't found it to be. But is it accessible?
> Yes it is accessible.
> I spent the last two days taking skills based testing to
> see what jobs would fit me better.
> And there was this app they used yesterday called career
> scope.
> Technically was that application accessible? To the sighted
> perso with the muse. First it was accessible second in my
> opinion it was way way over simplified.
> But then I am classified as having a high iq anyway so
> anything over simplified relaly annoys me.
> But anyway.
> They had it set up for me. the like and dislike test went
> fine. But after that an hour was spent trying to figure out
> why on earth what they set up for me  wouldn't work
> I tried to explain to them they could describe the patterns
> to me and I could pick the irght one. But one the test was
> timed. Two I don't think they wanted to take that time
> to do that.
> The other thing was the program sounded like it was totally
> mouse driven and color specific. It was called career scope.
> So what ended up happening is we passed the computer
> program. And they tested me from papers instead. Which
> should have been done anyway.
> Either way though they read to me I answered the questions.
> I put up with it because I do need and want to work.
> But to be quite honest I am not happy with the results. All
> the likes point to nature based jobs. Jobs with plants and
> animals  that to be honest I don't know if I could do
> those as a blind person. It doesn't matter how much I
> like to learn about animals and such. I am blind. And it is
> unlikely I would ever be a vet or stuff.
> So I am not very encouraged by the tests. And now I have to
> wait till my counselor talks with me and such before some
> decisions are made as to where we go from here.
> Anyway I will say agian accessible and usability if you
> prefer is in the eye of the beholder.
> The only way any of us are going to find out if something
> is or is not accessible and/or usable is if we can have
> hands on use of that particular applicaiton or tool or
> machine or whatever.
> Thank you..
> Jessica

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