Chad Smith wrote:
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BTW my point was not that this stuff uses java (no idea about that), but
that it may be shunned like java is today once distributions decide Helix
is redundant (which is a distinct possibility, Helix has a definite lack
of traction on Linux now)


Okay - look, I understand what you are saying - that you don't like Helix, and/or you don't think "Linux users" (of which I am one) will accept it. The thing you aren't getting it, we're not asking people to use Helix player for anything other than to do this. It could be included in the OOo download, or the plug-in download, so it would be transparent. It may be called the "Helix player plug-in for OOo" but other than that, it woudn't matter. The "Linux users" you speak for wouldn't have to remove any of their current media players (most distros come with far more than one - especially in the kitchen sync installs) nor would they have to start using Helix for anything other than OOo.

HelixPlayer is 3.8 MB (at least for the RPM version) useless bloat. is not even able (because of patents) to play mp3 files. and this considering each OS has its own complete multimedia framework.

It's just like the addition of the HPSDB (or whatever the letters are)

HSQLDB

database program that was added to OOo. Users (linux or otherwise) can still use whatever DB they want, but the one built-in and ready to go on OOo is HPSDB. The same thing for Abiword. Installing OOo does not take anyone's ability away to use Abiword - or KOffice. There are times when a user might just want to make a quick edit to a document, and then they could quickly open Abiword, make the edit, and save it. But if they want the features of OOo - they can open OOo. Some people use OOo just as a way to make Flash on Linux. They use KOffice/Abiword for everything else.

then let's include a full copy of Mozilla too, we want to be sure users will have a program if they need to send documents as email.


My point is - if they don't like it - they ain't gotta use it. But if they want to do what this plug-in can do, then they would.

Do me a favor - name me any other cross-platform media player that can run Real media, is open source, and runs on Mac OS X, Windows, Solaris, and Linux....

Mplayer is such an application, but good luck distributing it.
but why the "Real media" requirement? i don't think we should care about anything else beyond free formats - Ogg Vorbis and perhaps uncompressed Wav


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