Robert Horvat wrote:
I am sorry if you do not understand my bad English. My native language is
Slovene, but i presume you do not speak Slovene, so...
Please look down
Lep pozdrav,
Robert Horvat, dr.vet.med.
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From: Dave Barton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Robert Horvat
Subject: Re: [discuss] OOO20 beta is still much weaker as ms office
Robert, I sincerely hope you are not a troll. Although some of your emotive
terminology suggests that might be.
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 18:57 +0200, Robert Horvat wrote:
Hi!
I try to use OOo2.0beta but i have much problems with it:
What part of BETA do you not understand?
CALC
1. Cell value A1=1
set format to date and you get 31.12.99 this is WRONG, right is 1.1.
Says who?
IF I IMPORT FROM EXEL, I FUNCTIONS GIVE ME DIFERENT RESULT. I EXPECT TO BE
SAME. IS THAT NOT LOGICAL ENOUGH?
I do see this as a bug on importing and should be reported. If it is
that serious, I feel it would have been reported before. I wonder why
you would have a problem. I don't seem to have any problems importing
excel spreadsheets.
Again, OOo is not a clone but a replacement. Some functions may not
work exactly the same as in Office due to various reasons. Some of
them are due to poor implementation by Microsoft in the first place
and others because OOo is designed to meet a larger standard. I will
say that I have only used Excel on limited occasions.
2. sometimes you write date ie. 31.12.2004.
in command line you do not see this value but number value (37xxx)
Cannot reproduce in OOo 1.9.104. I get exactly what I type.
IF I TYPE 1.1.2005, SAVE FILE, CLOSE FILE, OPEN FILE, SOMETIMES (USUALY NOT)
I GET 1.1.2005 IN CELL, BUT IF I PRESS F2, DATE CONVERTS INTO 38353, SO I
CAN NOT CHANGE JUST MONTH, I HAVE TO WRITE ALL AGAIN.
In both 1.1.4 and beta 2.0, I get the date (not in the format of the
cell) but the date none-the-less when I press F2. It must be a
setting that is on your computer. I could not get the number
representation for the date.
3.select from A1 to B5
Press arrow to right 2x
Cursor is now in D5
It should be in C1
No, I would want and expect it to be in D5.
IF YOU THINK SO, OOO WILL NEVER BE BETER FROM EXCEL. LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO
MOVE CELLS A1..C100 TO THE RIGHT. YOU SELECT THEM, PRESS 3X RIGHT ARROW AND
IN OOO I GET A MESS
Ah, in your first comment, you didn't mention moving cells. How do
you move my keyboard? I will try and see what happens on my
computers. I never have tried it and I cannot find the keyboard
commands to do it. I would expect the cursor to move to the right of
it's last position.
4. Paste special is very dificult to use in ms excel there is shortcut
ctrl-e,s and you jump in paste special. in Ooo you have to press
ctrl-e,s and press enter I often use shortcut ctrl-e,s,v,enter (paste
special value). in Ooo that is impossible and very dificult to find
OOo is _NOT_ an M$ Office clone. As has been demonstrated on this list many
times, OOo has features M$ Office lacks.
OOO IS JUST FOR HOME USE. NOT ENOUGH PRODUCTIVE...
I use in a business environment. My wifes employer has moved from MS
Office to OpenOffice just recently as well. I find that I don't have
the headaches that the MS Office users run into. In many cases I find
that I can fix the corrupted MS Office files and save someones butt
when MS Office screws up the file. In fact there was a report a week
or so ago about and MS presentation that was saved by Open Office.
Not productive, in my opinion, WordPerfect is more productive for me
and many in my field as it allows much more control than Styles allows
but they don't make a Linux version anymore. I have never found Word
to be productive.
BASE
unbelivible buggy
Can't agree with your term "unbelivible" (unbelievably?). For something
which is still UNDER DEVELOPMENT it does a reasonable job and shows
improvements with each developer snapshot build.
If you really believe that you have found bugs in OOo and you genuinely want
to assist in improving it, then I recommend that you go to Bugzilla
(http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html) and report
them, rather than bitching to this list.
Dave
Ditto. This is one of the nice things about OOo, the ease of
submitting bugs. Of course some of them may never get fixed because
in the development community, they are not bugs. Just different than
MS Office. As with any different program, there are differences.
Some are major improvements over the older version but some are just a
pain. If you feel so strongly about the differences then you have the
option of sticking with MS Office. Many of us do not have the option
and many have made the choice that OOo is much more productive than MS
Office. This is the benefit of choice.
By the way, you english isn't that bad. I have heard worse after a
night in the pub. :)
--
Robin Laing
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