Thank you for the reply William.  I guess I will have to try the
sub-document solution pretty soon, as my thesis is getting lengthier
and more graphical.  The 4-to-5 minutes saving time is a killer, no
kidding!  I guess I don't have the 300-page thesis though.  By the
way, my thesis topic is "Modeling of Air-to-Air Heat Pump Simulation".

I started using the 2.0 beta version before I use 1.1.4 actually.  The
2.0 definitely has better interface.  But it turned me down when I
tried to paste a visio drawing as a GDI metafile on a 2.0 document
file. It crashed!  I worked fine if I pasted the visio object.  The
file size will be hugh though.  I kind of hestate to use 2.0 until the
release version is out.  I am sticking with 1.1.4 for my thesis
because it is more stable.  I think this will be the first ever Open
Office thesis in my research group.

Ipseng

On 8/2/05, William W. Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-08-02 11:33:55, Ipseng Iu wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a graduate student currenty write my thesis using the open office
> > 1.1.4.  I like this program especially the way it handles the equation
> > object. It is easy and efficient! Thanks for the great work.
> >
> > I'd like comment on the saving time though.  I realized that if the
> > document size is big, it takes quite a long time to save.  Sometimes I
> > run into the problem that the program gives me error message and does
> > not allow me to save the document anymore. I have to copy the entire
> > document and paste it to a new file to save.  By the way, all
> > formating is gone by that.  Right now I have 48 pages with lots of
> > equations, text, and couple tables and figures.  It takes about 20 to
> > 30 seconds to save.  I really hope the saving time could be improved
> > because I save often.
> 
> A couple of suggestions (Sigh.  When I did my dissertation [theoretical
> physics] back in the dark agae it was by typewriter [and cost a fortune
> to have typed, sigh] ... but I digress.)
> 
> I do research documents regularly (constantly?) and many of them run
> 300-500 pages (the largest is 1700 pages) with 100+ large scatter plots
> (created in the spreadsheet), 100-200 tables, footnotes/endnotes
> (depending on where it's going), 50-500 equations.  I agree with you
> about both the ease of use :-) and about the slowness :-(
> 
> A partial solution exists for the slowness, however.  Read the help
> page on master documents.  Make each section a sub-document.  Then you
> work on them one at a time (but can still get to the whole thing via
> the navigator.
> 
> I had been having a lot worse problems than you describe with the saves
> however. 4 to 5 minues is typical for a 300 page document such as I
> describe on a *fast* machine with *very fast* scsi drives.  (the saved
> file is about 8-12 MB in ".odt" format, a little bigger in ".sxw")
> Someone suggested the above technique just last Friday and I tried it
> over the weekend.  I can now call up that 300 page document and get to
> all of the sections quickly - and the save time is *drastically*
> reduced (I don't even have time to go down the hall for coffee while it
> saves... sigh).
> 
> BTW, you'll probably like 2.0 for technical-ish documents - it seems to
> handle them better than 1.1.4 did, and it crashes (or loses docs) no
> more often - at least in the 1.9.118 beta version (linux).
> 
> Forgot to ask - what is the topic of your thesis?
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  bill austin                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   90% of everything is crap.  your mileage may vary.  but i doubt it.
> 
> 


-- 
Ipseng Iu
Graduate Student
Oklahoma State University, Stillwater

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