On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 18:08 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
> Just listing a bunch
> of names for the same thing doesn't prove anything.

It proves you were wrong when you said there were just 2 :-)

Also how many apps support MS-XML? One, Office 2003 which has less
market share than all the current apps Daniel cited combined.

> Over 3 years to get 25% saturation? It's almost worth it. But you yourself,
> coder as you are, could create hacked filters for Microsoft Office in those
> three-years time, and claim the victory.

If its that easy and only costs a years subscription to a magazine, I'll
pay for someone to do it now. You come out with such stupid things at
times, Chad, it beggars belief

> I'd take you up on it if we made it this way - if by January 1, 2009, enough
> office suites *NATIVELY* support the OpenDocument Format to make up 25% of
> the market share - then I'd make the bet.

Ok, I'll take that bet or offer you a different one. I'll bet you by
that date ODF has a bigger market share than MS-XML. IDC and Forresters
evidence is that OOo is already 10-15%. I should think OOo by itself
will have > 25% market share for new installations which is all that
really matters. Don't forget that developing countries are taking up OOo
and Open Source in general at a much faster rate than in the USA. That
is the downside of a view that the USA is the whole world. In population
terms, the USA is smaller compared to the world population than OOo
users are to MSO users. USA is only about 5% of the world population and
if anything that %age is shrinking. The population of the EU is
significantly bigger and getting more so as other nations join. The EU
has come out in favour of ODF. China of course has a bigger population
than the USA and EU combined and is the fastest growing world economy.
Guess what? They have a policy to adopt Open Source which will mean ODF.
Oh, and India has 3.5 times the population of the USA and they too have
gone for an Open Source policy. Now who have I missed? South America? A
lot of Open Source policy in governments there. Africa? Not much chance
of them affording MSO upgrades.

Get used to it Chad, the world is a changing place and what you see
around you is not necessarily typical. It seems to be a shame to have to
take money off you really ;-)

-- 
Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ZMSL


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