Le mercredi 26 octobre 2005 à 22:32 +0200, cono a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> 
> > Le mercredi 26 octobre 2005 à 18:43 +0200, Mathias Bauer a écrit :
> 
> [...]
> > 
> > Now, if you use simple styles with only language attribute (to avoid
> > interactions with presentation) and fixed names (to avoid reconfiguring
> > OO.o every time you load a new document) wouldn't it have been so much
> > easier to access language directly in the first place ?
> > 
> Something as
> - adding a character-style for every language you use to the standard 
> template;
> - assigning the styles to a key-combination ?

That's pretty much the only kind of workaround you can do if you work at
at a department-level. It won't solve the problem of SOHO and single
users, and it won't solve the problems of multinationals with branches
in many countries, but that's the only thing doable with the current
OO.o version. And all it does is extract the info you need to set from
the style structure that has been forced around it, and the style
indirection means you'll have problems every time you need to work with
someone who used slightly different conventions.

From a pure UI POW what most users expect is a dropdown control with a
language list in the toolbar (like for styles, but strictly limited to
language), and a key accel to quickly switch between the languages which
have already been used in the doco.

Even users that want to sync presentation changes with language changes
would probably be better served by some sort of conditional styling than
by what we have today (ie allow to define variants on a single style
based on the encoding of the text styled. And then only offer the root
style in the style dropdown)

But then good internationalisation is something very new and foreign to
traditional closed software houses, unicode is not the natural way of
working yet and OO.o shows its SO roots. When encoding restrictions made
documents with a high language mix a technical impossibility, the
pressure to handle languages well was not so big.

I just hope someone gets thing into shape soon. That's the kind of
misdesign MS would love to point out to journalists and politicians.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

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