Chad Smith wrote:
On 10/27/05, cono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I saw a message from you passing swifty to my bin ;-) You wrote that you
do indeed support OOo. Well, no doubt about that from me.
As I see your role: you want to prevent people from being to naive,
eye-shelved, optimistic, unrealistic etc.
Doing that ís important, and even necessary one in a while.
However, the way you play that role, is upsetting people so regularly,
coasing misunderstanding as well, that you will miss the target. IMHO,
of course.
So a waste of time, and maybe even worse.
Hope you understand what I mean. Maybe you can play it a little bit
different?
You don't think spreading FUD about MS causes people to get upset? It upsets
me. It upsets me for 2 reasons. 1 - I just generally don't like dishonesty.
2 - It makes OOo and/or Open Source look foolish. FLOSS claims MS does
nothing but make crappy software and spread FUD about the competition. I
think that portarying a very unrealistic view of MS puts FLOSS into the same
boat. The big difference is, MS doesn't have much to prove - they are
already on top. Many see and portary FLOSS has being the "ethical" choice or
having some sort of moral advantage over Microsoft. Well, I think they lose
that advantage when they start lying about Microsoft and lying about what
their software can do.
Sure, perfectly right.
I also get upset (since you claimed that is what I do) by people constantly
claiming I have some sort of learning disability, or that I can't "grasp
simple concepts like..." fill in the blank. Just because I don't agree with
you, doesn't mean I don't understand what you believe. I completely
understand people's misguided hopes in ODF. But, obviously, I don't agree
with them. That doesn't mean I don't understand them - I just don't share
them. I hate to keep "tooting my own horn" like I did with that message you
just trashed, but I feel the need to defend myself. I actually have a
documented genius level IQ. I'm in the 99th percentile. I don't have any
kind of learning disability, and I am perfectly capable of abstract
thinking. My intelligence is not determined by the level to which I agree
with Ian or Daniel or the project. And I'm sick and tired of it being
labeled as such.
Thanks for your explanation.
It is not fair if I pointed only in your direction.
You have your point of view, write it down pretty 'clearly'. Someone
else disagrees, and writes even more 'clearly'. And so forth.
With serveral strong personalities on the list, that tends to
escalation, rather than to understanding. Saying 'maybe I'm (party)
wrong' is not that easy. Specially when it comes to believes.
Anyway, I am going to look at the way I interact with the lists... But I
won't change my opinions just to fit in, nor will I back down from thinking
that honesty is the best policy. But m tactics may not be the most
effective.
I think that might be the point. However, it's learnable.
BTW, I think most of us can benefit from reflection, occasionally at the
least.
Greetings,
Cor
PS as I'm not native English - only ;-) Dutch - I hope my word choise is
not to bad for this discussion.
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