Greetings, I imposed to myself to NOT read anything at all on this list for at least 2/3 days in very the moment I sent this request: both to calm myself down and to leave as many other users as possible time to reply. This is why am answering only now. I will answer to everybody in this SHORT message (because I think I owe it to all members), and then STOP, I PROMISE, to beat this horse on the list.
First of all, sincere thanks to all the many people who have supported my request, confirming that it I complained about a serious, objective problem after trying to live with it for 13 months. To Andrew, who wrote: > [He should stay because] if he goes someone else will have to take > up the position of microsoft realist, and I fear it will be me. Please do. I surely appreciate civil behavior and coherent thought, and I know you have them both. Furthermore, you wouldn't be alone as a "Microsoft realist". Check some of *my* messages in the archives. To Richard, about freedom of speech: Let's not confuse freedom of speech with continuated harassment. I have NOT asked that he is closed in a room without Internet access for life, nor do I want it. Even IF my unsubscription request were accepted (**) he would still have the whole Internet to publish whatever he wants ad nauseam. More power to him, seriously. I have never even dreamed for one second to have him shut down from every online community. That would really be unacceptable (even if possible). But what happened here is more like if you teached any subject in a public hall, and he entered by his own will to yell (without ever really listening to answers) that it's all rubbish and you're an idiot for saying it. After the 7th/8th time, you would surely ask the police to throw him out. Without questioning for one second his right to keep saying the same things in his *own* class, set up on the other side of the same street, at the same hours. Still to Richard, about: > What say we set up some way of allowing him/her through verbal > discussion in a chat room or alike to push his/her point, > remembering of course to invite everyone to attend, so we can > evaluate his/her words simple as words and not an attitude or social > disorder. This is *exactly* what has *already* happened in the last 13 months. I agree with you, but it was time to declare that phase closed. Last (REALLY) answer to Louis, who reminded us that: > Our mail list guidelines specifically prohibit personal attacks or > other rude behaviour. My request could have not been generic, but has been very polite. I also sticked to facts. I *explicitly* avoided to add *his* many examples of "personal attacks or other rude behaviour". I could have built a very valid case out of them only, but decided to accept personality differences and stick to facts. I am confident, however, that you will also take that side of the problem into account (**). And this really is all. I promise again I will only answer on this issue off list from now on (even if I really do not see what else should be said). Ciao and thanks. On to participate in the other threads now. Marco ** probably it isn't even really necessary any more, given the consensus to my proposal... -- Marco Fioretti mfioretti, at the server mclink.it Fedora Core 3 for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/ A goal that can be achieved in your lifetime isn't worth having. Dave Brower --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
