Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> Then i wonder if this is the correct forum for your query?

It's not really a query. I'm thinking out loud. Ian Lynch made some good 
points about OSS applications best understood as a strategic 
collaboration between behemoths like IBM and SUN. But that's not how Eric 
Raymond would see it. 
> Is there
> anything we could say that would convince you. 

What are you trying to convince me of? I think it's obvious to anyone 
that such ideas as "with enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow" is 
something between wildly misleading and utter crap. It certainly doesn't 
apply to OOo. Assume, for the sake of argument, that OOo's Marketing 
project own figure of 50m users is accurate. Of these 50m, at most 500 
can have contributed to the program -- that's the figure of people who 
signed the JCA. 

As I know, signing the JCA doesn't actually make you a programmer. I'd be 
surprised if more than 200 people had ever contributed code, and if more 
than 10 of them were not paid, full-time by their employers to do so. 

That's not an impressive figure over five years. Ten volunteer developers 
is fewer, perhaps, than you'd get on the average sourceforge project. 
It's not surprising that there are currently 6030 defects open in the 
project, and a further 5506 requests for enhancements. (There are, 
incidentally, 21180 issues marked as "fixed")

OK -- so there aren't very many programmers in the world with the 
necessary skills and interests. But the other thing we have learnt in the 
last five years is that most users, so far from being able to fix bugs, 
can't even identify them. 

We all know what a nightmare it is to navigate Issuezilla, and how few of 
the reports on these lists make it in there. The QA volunteers -- before 
you ask, I am one, too -- struggle with a mountain of crud in their 
limited spare time. And they are quite simply overwhelmed.

With enough eyeballs, you see so many bugs you might as well be having 
the DTs.


> Perhaps you should just
> sit back and watch events as a social experiment.



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