On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 21:06 -0600, Randomthots wrote:

> Do you know what a EULA is? Do you know what a contract is? Jonathon's 
> "enforcers" are lawyers with subpoenas signed by judges.

Not necessarily. The evidence I have is of people trying to gain entry
and use fear to sell products without any authorisation from a Judge.
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander so the exact same
logic applies to the application of fair trading law.

>  They don't just 
> go in on their own and start taking crap. Jesus! Are you brain dead?

Personal abuse is inappropriate when you have also shown yourself to be
less than conversant with all the facts.

> So, yeah, Microsoft is a bully, and Microsoft has broken some laws. But 
> the vast majority of the damage that they have wreaked upon the 
> computing public has been accomplished through entirely legal means.

So its OK to break the law? I don't think so. Its very difficult to be
sure how much effect the law breaking has actually had. What seems like
a small issue can have wide reaching consequences. But at least we have
one domain of consensus, that Microsoft overall has been bad for end
users of technology. We are simply debating the details of why. To get
back on topic, as OOo advocates we should be using every opportunity to
inform people with evidence of why this is the case because that will
encourage more people to migrate to OOo. We have a market lever so let's
use it.

-- 
Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ZMS Ltd


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