CPHennessy wrote:

> > I don't think many of the developers on OOo bother to read 
> > or take part in [email protected] anymore, rather taking
> > to irc #openoffice.org or [email protected] and/or the
> > individual development mailing lists and issuezilla tracker
> > to communicate with eachother.
> 
> And that is why I wish the MS bashing and other off-topic rants 
> would stop.

You don't seem to have read those "off-topic rants", otherwise,
probably, you wouldn't have reproposed the same stale slogan
(but very relevant for the success of both OO.o and FOSS in general)
whose limits have been exposed in those "rants": 

> Please list members, use your considerable energy to contribute 
> to OOo - writing docs, contributing clipart or templates or
> even better, help on the http://qa.openoffice.org team or contribute code.

To sum those rants:

1) a product like OO.o, or any SW geared at the desktop "market" (*) has by
   definition a user base (essential for its ultimate success) which is
   99.99% made of people who will never have the combination of time and
   skills to ever contribute in any way. Specifically, what makes anyone think
   that:
       considerable energy to denounce objective problems on users lists =
       capability to create SW docs, code, clipart, templates or do QA stuff

2) Even when it is not expressed rudely, such an attitude ("contribute in some
   way to the SAME project I like better (**), or your complaints are void, 
please
   shut up. Even if you depend from this program more than me") is very
   unrealistic and can hurt (*is* hurting) a more widespread adoption of OO.o
   and FOSS in general

Ciao,
             Marco

(*) Note that in these days we like to say that Gnu/Linux is ready for the 
desktop,
    so even the Linux kernel should fit this definition
(**)"Even if, for all I know, the person I'm considering a lazy loser for not
     contributing to OO.o may be someone who uses it 30 minutes a week to ask 
funding
     for, say, some volunteer program for children to which he or her devotes 
for
     free 20/30 hours a week" 



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