On 12/20/05, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You mean like Star Office, IBM Workplace etc? I thnk this is becoming an > increasingly dated view. Granted it will take time, but that time will > be shorter if ODF advocates promote confidence in it.
Both of your examples are OOo clones/knock-off/deriviatives/insert-other-name-for-"it's-the-same-program-in-different-clothes"-here. Any other examples of commerical support? Do you *know* anyone that uses IBM Workplace? Can I buy it? Can I download it? Can I subscribe to it? Or is it vaporware? So far, ODF is an extremely limited format - only OOo 2+ and clones / AbiWord / and Koffice support it. Koffice is limited to Linux. AbiWord doesn't have a huge install base, especially among business professionals who need more power than it can provide. And OOo (and clones) is the only real support for it - and most people I know that use OOo only use the MS formats. Regardless, as has been pointed out numerous times on these list - we're here to talk about and promote OPENOFFICE.ORG not ODF. We've lost at least 2 supporters (Ryan and Jason) because of this debate and because of people's attitudes about them. The personal attacks, the "elitist" viewpoints of a few who seem to want to dicate what OOo is, and is not about. I'm not talking about Louis, he is, after all, in charge. I'm talking about people who think it is their self-appoint duty to control the lists, filtering out people and ideas and comments and viewpoints, that don't vibe with their own. While at the same time pushing their own agendas - including the promotion of ODF over the promotion of OOo. Some have even gone so far to say that they don't care if OOo lives or dies - as long as ODF gets accepted - that's not a good attitude for a "promoter" of OpenOffice.org to have. Anyway, I hope that people get their act together - stop pushing ODF *over* OOo, and get back to making OpenOffice.org better and better known. I just want the foolish bickering to end. -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ Because everyone loves free software!
