Steven Pauwels wrote:
Chad Smith schreef:
On 2/7/06, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:16 -0500, Chad Smith wrote:
There is no point to remove easter eggs. It's not going to get us in
more
schools.
How is it Chad that you are an expert in every field? You know more
about education than I do despite the fact that I have worked at a
senior level in that industry for many years. You know more about
marketing than Steven despite the fact he is a 20 year experience
professional in that field.
I'm sorry, did I ever claim to be an expert? Did I ever claim to
know more
than you or Steven? By disagreeing with someone - does that mean I
claim
superiority? If so - then you have claimed superiority to me numerous
times. You seem to think that just because you are a so-called
expert that
I should just lay down and agree with every word you say on the
subject. I
won't do that.
How many times have I asked for something - OOo Lite, a PIM, etc. -
and you
- yourself, personally, Ian, have told me that I could either code it
myself
or convince someone to code it for me or shut up? Well, take your own
expert advice. Find a bug report - oh wait, someone did that already
and it
was turned down. Try again - oh, you mean it's been tried a couple
of time
and shot down each time? Hmmm... Maybe code it yourself.
Seriously, unless there are some developers lurking on these list
that are
deciding to remove the ee or not - I don't see a point to this
discussion.
Even if I were to agree with you, (which I don't), how would that
remove the
EE? What if every person who commented on this thread, or the 3 or 4
other
threads about this, suddenly agreed that all easter eggs should be
removed -
or that all interactive ees should be removed? What then? File yet
another
IZ report, all of us quick vote and confirm it, and set it at the
highest
priority, only to have to shot down again as either "CLOSED WILL NOT
FIX" or
"DUPLICATE" or left open with no action...
What do you propose - meaning what action do you want to take to
remove the
EEs?
--
- Chad Smith
http://www.gimpshop.net/
Because everyone loves free software!
I propose you either be productive, even if you disagree, or shutup
about it Chad.
Every Government has its opposition. Why not try to get something done
together, Chad, instead of spilling frustrations all over the threads.
We are serious about this issue and if you care, or want to keep the
EEs in, because they are usefull, you could help to find a way how to
let the public voice decide instead of forcing us to justify your claims.
How about it Chad? In for a challenge? Want to try to get this done,
either the EEs in or the EE's out? You could join in on our effort to
point out that there is a general marketing problem in this community.
I would like you to use your 'ambitious force' and join in on having
constructive discussions.
Let us know?
Steven P
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Hmm Not nice at all Steven..
So Chads opinion is worthless HOW.. Because you said so.. His comments
are productive There are EEs in all the major programmes Costing
hundreds of pounds, Illustrator from Adobe, Quark Express Photoshop
etc.. Now these all cost LOTS of CASH but they still sell. The truth is
not many people actually know they are there and those that do on the
whole don't care.
You feel there is a marketing problem and you are probably right in some
cases there will be in others there will be no difference at all. Lets
take a look at those where they may be a problem, what is their option,
Msoft, but wait a minute, doesent that cost Hundreds of pounds, per
machine, and HAVE EEs ? So the marketing problem is either a fully
competent suite with EEs for Free, DOnations excepted, or A Msoft
version with EEs for Loads of money.. Not much of a problem really is it.
Next Having played the things they are a bit tedious and anyone that
finds them and is trying them will soon lose interest, plus the picture
of the developers has no naked women/men (depends on your preference) so
that won't hold the attention for long,
But I agree it would be better if there was a EE free/disabled version
for the corporate/educational sector which would present a better image
of a professional programme. Have another for the domestic sector where
people can have the fun of trying to find the EEs if they have even the
inkling that they are there, I didn't until this thread. That way
everyone wins, no one gets told to SHUT UP and if the option is made
clear at the download site then the market will decide if one is to die.
Is that with or without EEs sir? No extra cost, limited extra coding and
a winner for everybody..
Although I suspect that the development team may baulk at not getting
the extra recognition, however small, their picture produced, and they
are worth. I for one am quite happy to be able to put a face to the work
that has gone into my office suite of choice. I actually think there
should be instructions on how to access that EE so people can see who
put the programme on their plate and pay homage. But choice would be
good too.
So what about it.. Two versions one with and one without, All done and
dusted and this thread can go to bed..It has gotten WAY WAY out of
proportion.
Cheers
Chris
Oh and to preclude any misunderstanding I meant every word as I typed
them.. Ok. No hidden meanings no innuendo.. just as they are..Yup.
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