On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 01:35 +0100, Sander Vesik wrote:
> --- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > They can if your system security lets them. If OOo has a bug that lets
> > Macros run without informing the user that is definitely a vulnerability
> > and nothing to do with the OS. However usually such things will get
> > fixed pretty quickly and wel before they become a practical risk.
> 
> I'm not sure where the OS entered into it... It doesn't matter as in most 
> cases the
> just attack wants to run code on your machine. Which is not much different in 
> Linux
> vs Solaris vs BSD vs Windows if the application is "co-operating". 

> Ian, you have actually read this document -
> http://www.openoffice.org/security/CVE-2006-2198.html - right? And are aware 
> of the
> curl overrun problem and how that could be exploited? Want to give an 
> estimate of
> the number of installation that are still vulnerable to those bugs? And how 
> long
> will it take for you yourself to upgrade after the next vulnerability is 
> discovered?

It has been patched according to the above reference. Takes me myself
about 5 minutes to upgrade - well ok it takes a bit longer to download
the code but I can do other things while that is happening. My Ubuntu
distro provides me with security updates on a regular basis so I assume
that this is likely to include such things and in any case the number of
people that send me ODF documents at the moment is small and mostly
people who I do know and trust so again I think the chance of a disaster
is small. Ok there could be something similar in the future when ODF is
the preferred file format for exchanging documents but then that could
be true of any Office software based on the track record so far. 

> One rarely talks of "theoretical" attacks without having done some proof of 
> concept
> experiments. 

I have proof of concept of several theoretical ways of making a billion
dollars. I'm not that rich yet ;-)

In summary, 

Fix security vulnerabilities and publicise them
Don't get over-paranoid about theory 
Weigh up cost against benefit/risk

For me I don't see any compelling reason to stop using OOo in my
business on the grounds of security. I see no alternative that has an
objectively better track record on security and in general the overall
cost of keeping the alternatives secure seems significantly higher.
Theoretically there could be something a lot better, in practise I'm yet
to find it.

Ian
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