On 4/3/07, Lars D. Noodén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, the disadvantage that MS Office 2007 has an extremely restricted,
basically non-existent, choice of platforms also applies to earlier
versions.  That doesn't make the further reduction any more acceptable or
helpful.  That is one of the reasons why MSO is no longer suitable for
business environments, or for that matter home or school.



Let's examine the facts here, shall we?

Your "extremely restricted, basically non-existent, choice of platforms"
covers 90% + of all end-user computers in use in the world today.  And that
is just the Windows platform.  Now, does MS Office 2007 run on all of those
computers?  Of course not.  But many of those computers - almost all of
them, in fact, have some version of MS Office already installed and running
on them.  Either MS Office, MS Word, or MS Works (Suite).

As far as limiting it to just this latest release...  You're still looking
at over 75% of the world's business computers, and most of the world's home
computers as well.  And those businesses that don't have the hardware to run
MS Office 2007, then need to upgrade anyway, (or at least that what their IT
department will tell them - I don't know many IT guys that will pass up a
chance to get new hardware).

Look at the system requirements for MS Office 2007 Basic

Computer and processor       500 MHz processor
Memory                               256 MB RAM
Hard disk                             1.5 GB (part of this can be freed
after installation)
Drive                                   CD-ROM or DVD drive
Display                                1024x768 or higher resolution monitor
Operating system                 MS Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1,
or later Windows OS

Now, if you think that the Basic edition is some crappy version no one will
use, the "Ultimate" edition of MS Office 2007 has the same requirements,
except double the HD space (to 3 GB).

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/ha101668651033.aspx#9

I'd say that well over 80% of the computers in use in offices today meet or
beat those systems requirements, with the possible exception of the OS
(there are large numbers still running older versions of MS Windows).  But
the hardware specs are pretty minimal.

Compare those to OOo...

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html

No listing of what CPU it needs
128 MB RAM
200 MB available disk space
800 x 600 or higher resolution with at least 256 colours

Half the RAM, much less disk space, and lower resolution.  But really, how
many more business computers does that add?

You're giving equal weight to all platforms, regardless of how much they are
actually used.  I've gone for more than 20 years of using computers, and
I've never once booted up a SPARC server.  I could care less if any program
I've ever used or ever will use will run on a SPARC.  I don't care if it
runs on a RISC computer either.  And most people don't care if it does
either.  Does it run on *my* computer?  Does it run on my company's
computer?  Does it run, (and I don't think too many care about this one, but
some will) on my customer's/family's/friends/client's computer?  That's
about as far as it goes.  And the last one only if they have a need to run
the same software.

As a Mac user (at home and work - all my company's computers are Apples -
except 2 really old Windows computers that we use for one very specific
application) I can say that Microsoft has done a tremendously better job
with their office program on *MY* platform than OpenOffice.org.  (NeoOffice
is good, but, hey, that's not an "official" port - so we can't count that.)
And more businesses use Macs in there offices than Solaris/SPARC, Debian
PPC, OpenBSD on ARM, Fedora on x86-64, or OS/2 Warp ... combined.

And, for the record, MS Office 2007 (and 2003 and XP) run just fine on a
x86-64 system, as long as it's running Windows.

Don't parrot that myth.  DOC is not a single format, it's about a dozen
and a half.  Regardless, it doesn't matter because the default format for
MSO 2007 is DOCX which is *not backwards compatible*.


You don't understand what "backwards compatible" means.

My Playstation 2 is "backwards compatible" with my Playstation (1).  It can
open, run, play, and save games from my Playstation 1.  Playstation 2 games,
however, do *not* run on my Playstation 1.  If they did - that would mean
that my Playstation 1 was "forward compatible" - not that my Playstation 2
was "backwards compatible".

MS Office 2007 *is* backwards compatible if it can open, edit, read, save,
and create files from older versions, which (from my understanding and
experience with it) it indeed *can do*.

OpenOffice.org 2.0 introduced a new file format as its default.  The
OpenDocument format.  It can still open, create, edit, and save files under
the old format.  It is backwards compatible.  They even came out with a add
on for some of the more recent older versions of OpenOffice.org to make them
forward compatible.  (But I believe it was done by a third party and wasn't
an "official" thing until it was adopted by the community.)

That's the only way it can be done when adding a new format, btw.  You can
either just keep it on the new version and expect people to upgrade or not
use the new format - *OR* - you can release or adopt a patch for your older
versions.  It's kind of impossible to go back in time and make all the older
versions compatible from the beginning with a format you didn't know was
going to exist, much less how to make it, for years after the software was
released.



So again, just because a liability is present in multiple versions of MS
Office, doesn't make the problem any more acceptable or helpful.  That
includes lack of OpenDocument (ISO/IEC 23600) support, which is a must-
have.


In your opinion it is a must have.  There are millions and millions of
computer users who do not agree.


In the same way, rats are successful.  Cockroaches are successful, too.
If by success you mean market share, then you're quite right.


Fire up any random 100 computers in the world and 80 or more of them will
have some version of MS Office - or some compatible program - on it.  Those
programs include AbiWord, KOffice, and OpenOffice.org - all of which can
open, create, and save MS Office formatted files.

 If by
success, you mean the ability to exchange documents between different
versions, then you seem to have slept through the last 15 years.


See above.


Forced obsolence has been the driving factor in the earlier sales of MS
Office.  In otherwords, the new formats, like DOCX, don't work with the
old programs.  I'm not sure of any way to spin that into a description of
interoperability.



See above.  MS Office 2007 can create files that other programs can open -
are they default?  Maybe not - but the user can change that.  Kind of like
OpenOffice.org's default file format that 90%+ of the office suite/word
processors in use today *CAN NOT OPEN*.

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- Chad Smith
http://www.chadwsmith.com/

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