Hi Michael, yes, you can *discuss* here. In fact that's what we are doing now. So expectations are met. :-)
But don't expect to get anything *done* here. If you want to talk to developers, go to a "dev" list of the project you want to address. There are only a few crazy developers (like me ;-)) lurking on the discuss list. Ciao, Mathias Michael McCoy wrote: > Now I'm confused! > I though this was the discuss Open Office mailing list? > > > On Nov 6, 2007 1:08 PM, Mathias Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> I think your observations might get more interest on the >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. >> >> Ciao, >> Mathias >> >> >> William Case wrote: >> >> > Hi; >> > >> > I have been on the OOo users list for some two years and using OOo for >> > as long. I went to the www.openoffice.org site just to see why there is >> > so much confusion for newbies (OOo beginners). >> > >> > Even I was flustered. >> > >> > Being flustered the first time one downloads, installs or uses a new >> > application and/or operating system is something that can happen to us >> > all -- no matter how intelligent or savvy one is. It is an emotional >> > state brought on by FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt). >> > >> > Microsoft and others may spread and enhance FUD in order to keep >> > clients, but they do not create it. It is a normal human emotional >> > reaction to gambling on something that *may* have a steep learning >> > curve; *may* be (to them) completely non-intuitive; *may* cost them all >> > their time and money invested in learning something like Word; *may* >> > have formats not shareable with others; and *may* put years worth of >> > documents and other work at risk. Often there are also time pressures >> > involved. >> > >> > At www.openoffice.org I found: >> > >> > 1) the so-called download button didn't look like a button; >> > 2) the support tab (page) was confusing, giving far too many unnecessary >> > choices; >> > 3) no tips; >> > 4) no explanation of the difference between downloading and installing; >> > 5) no reassurances as a newcomer proceeds; >> > 6) even finding this Discussion mailing list was filled with FUD. >> > etc. >> > >> > Never did find the questions email site that inserts "YOU MUST GIVE A >> > SUMMARY HERE". I have no idea where people with problems are finding >> > that site. >> > >> > I recently gave a short talk about Linux to a group of 20 non-tech MS >> > users. The Q & A afterwards, from all 20, turned primarily into >> > questions about what would happen to their Word documents if they >> > migrated to Linux and OOo. >> > >> > *I* know the answers. I gave them the right answers. It still didn't >> > reduce their FUD very much. From their prospective, too much was at >> > risk. >> > >> > I can see, given the flustered factor, why so many people are having so >> > much trouble with the basics. I don't have the answers. But somehow >> > the www.openoffice.org site has to be re-thought and the first >> > impression of OOo has to be greatly improved if OOo wants to challenge >> > MS Office. >> > >> >> >> -- >> Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer >> OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS >> Please don't reply to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". >> I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Please don't reply to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
