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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:18:12 -0500
Champion, Patrick wrote:
> I thought one of OpenOffice.org's claims to fame was the ability to
> have compatibility with Microsoft Word.
Actually many people try to claim that, i don't. I claim it is better in
many ways. If it trieds to duplicate Microsoft office it would always be
an also-ran.
> You will find most business
> people like being able to specify the date and time a file was
> printed.
And being aware of your immediate problem i suggested a solution to
that.
> For OpenOffice to say, "screw what people do, we will
> dictate your business practices" seems pretty arrogant.
First of all, i am not OpenOffice, as far as i am aware openoffice is a
company in holland that makes the excellent bluefish html editor.
Neither am i an employee of OpenOffice.org or even a representative of
OpenOffice.org. I am a bloke on the end of a computer that saw you had a
problem (you asked for help on an open mailing list that anyone can
join) and suggested an alternative that you may not have previously
thought of. As a web author the way i see it the sooner that all
companies realise they are working in the global village environment and
start talking the global language to each other the better. There, you
made me explain my intentions. Are they as you read them?
As for the rest of your sentence. I honestly don't know whos pulling a
Cartman here ("Screw you guys, i'm going home").
> This bug is pretty much in one's face when one tries to read a Change
> Request form in Word XP format that has on the front page the date of
> creation, update, and printing and one sees the dates reordered or
> replaced by some MERGE... string, or with the 1p/2p strings at the
> end. This is what would cause any of my coworkers to assume that
> OpenOffice is completely unreliable and to be avoided at all costs.
> How am I going to convince them when such a simple thing is broken?
>
It is not an "in one's face" bug. It is actually the first time i have
heard of it on this list, and i have been _contributing_ to
this list, somewhat sporadically, for a few of years now. Not only
that, but i see the issue only has one vote, and that one vote (probably
not yours) is hardly likely to get a fix timetabled real soon. The issue
IS however maked P3, which means:
"P3 marks non-trivial problems which probably affect a noticeable number
of users. Issues with this priority must be fixed before the target
release (see Target milestone) Not fixing them for the target release
must be justified by a superordinate rule."
Your company has made the decision to adopt a proprietary closed source
office suite. The save format of this office suite is also closed. The
only way OpenOffice.org has any compatability at all with .DOC format is
by reverse engineering it. I could make an arguement that would hold
water in a court of law that says the problem is either Microsofts or
"Yours" because you were foolish enough to adopt a closed environment in
the first instance!
If your company and others was prepared to front up even some of the
money they have paid for Microsoft Office licences over the last 5 years
you could probably get anything fixed you damn well like. All i have
seen at present is a whinge followed by escalating abuse.
Did you actually expect me to answer saying "Yes sir based on your
contribution of, let's see, NOTHING, we will fix this for you straight
away". Stop throwing the teddy out of the crib.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Champion, Patrick
> Subject: Re: [discuss] Will Bug 48822 be worked on before the next
> major release
>
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:03:53 -0500
> Champion, Patrick wrote:
>
> > Writer messes up date formats of Word documents with am/pm formats.
> > I can not use it to work on our corporate files because it messes up
> > the date formats. This is important when you have project dates in
> > documents and get garbage.
> >
> > Please consider correcting this bug by 2.4 version. I would even
> > consider helping out if I also wasn't completing my Masters in
> > statistics.
> >
>
> Consider talking your company into using the international ISO date
> formats which prevent personal interpretation messing with time.
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html
>
> --
> Michael
>
> All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things
> shall be well
>
> - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416
>
>
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