> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:14:52 -0400 > Twayne wrote: > >>> On 04/29/2008 10:18 AM, Twayne wrote: >>>> OK, I think this page explains it all: >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html >>> >>> Explains what? >> >> Where it might come from, what to do about it, whom to notify, etc.; >> just read it and use it. >> > > [snip] > > Twayne, some of your comments here were over the top. You were both > attacking the problem from two different legitimate angles. You > reported it to the OO.o webmasters. NoOp reported it to WorldOfPower. > > It was not spam. Spam is unwanted advertising. This was an automated > server reply, unwanted admittedly. The biggest issue i had with this > one was it did not quote the intended recipient address of the list > email, thus is was a badly set up automated reply. > > Anyways it has stopped thankfully, and we can all continue with our > mundane lives.
It should be stopped for now, here and other groups and inboxes, too. I received a mail from WldOPwr's Admin and they have redirected all their auto-responders to a particular mailbox of their own. He said they received over 10,000 of them in the short time after the redirect. To use his own words, they are now working "frantically" to figure out how to take care of it completely and for the future. I found him very reasonable and IMO wanting to do the right thing for all the right reasons. I'm not going to give his address here since he contacted me by e-mail but I think it shows at a minimum that they now understand the problem and are working on it. Based on the quantity of 10,000, this is, as I said previously was possible, apparently an intentional attack against them. Either their auto-responder is responding to spams and using one of the spamee names from its lists in the forged headers, which generates in turn the auto-responses, which the attacker would well know would result in complaints against them. Otherwise the forged address would vary a lot more than it does. Every spam they receive WAS being auto-responded to. OR, the spams were being directly injected into their stream at some compromised machine point, and the auto-responder was basing its output on those. Based on your definition of spam, what would YOU call over 10,000 of them? That makes it UBE/UCE based solely on quantity, which is one of the biggest parts of the definition of spam. And obviously it was unwanted, unasked for, and nothing to do with the recipients; any thinking person would agree that is spam. HTH Twayne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
