Hi Douglas,

Douglas St.Clair schrieb:

I can see a logic for retaining the whole image after cropping in that it allows the author to re-crop the image at any time. Clearly the downside is the images are larger than the original poster wanted. It would seem that in order to satisfy the original poster there would need to be a way to tell the application no further changes to the images are desired. Now this could be done automatically when the document is saved. (I don't like this approach). There could be a 'save and minimize images' option added. There could be a separate command to minimize image(s) to the size at which they are currently defined. Should this do all images, selected images, only one selected image?

I mention this only to point out that while the request for the original poster sounds pretty straight forward it really is pretty complex.

As always. The common "Do what I want" from a user in most cases is not the "Do what everyone wants"...

I would add an option to the selected object containing the image. The user who has to decide if he further wants to crop or not (and the only one who can decide) did modify the object himself, so - when an image is cropped - let there be an extra menu entry or a new button near the crop button which is something like 'finish cropping'.

When i think about it, this could all be done with the one existing, interactive crop initiating button. When it would work like an on/off switch:

- on: start cropping the current image, delete nothing
- off: end-crop image, throw away invisible data

The nice thing is that You can only select 'off' anyways when You did crop at all...



On Nov 12, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote:

    Hi Clarke,

Clarke Rice schrieb:
Hi Sigrid
I don't understand, why you are complaining. Have you tried the new
version of OOo? The cropping tool for images has - in my opinion -
improved a lot. I don't know how Word does the cropping (I haven't used
Word for some time now), but I think that OOo does it now well enough
that you don't need any extra program like GIMP to crop the pictures you
want to insert. Try it out.
What you say is true. However in OOo 3, if I insert a large image and resize it, Writer still saves a huge image. It would be useful if Writer allowed me to save the final document with images at the resolution they are actually used with, or to save without cropped portions of images still being retained in the saved file.

Good idea. For impress, have You tried the presentation optimizer (a downloadable plugin)?

Please (if not done yet) register at OOo and file an enhancement issue for this. Maybe a menu entry or button can be added for cropped images to apply the crop and get back to a non-cropped, reduced image.

Clarke




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