Yes, the ovs is running in the host-machine, not in the VMs. This way, the ovs is running on the same level as the VirtualBox infrastructure. The bridges and their ports must be created on the host level, and then should be visible as available interfaces in the hypervisor, and then should be available for all VMs.

Just like in the page "Vlans" of the documentation-pages on website of ovs. In this page you can see an image explaining that the VMs (VM1 VM2) access to the bridge br0 using interfaces called tap0 and tap1. Those tap0 and tap1 interface must be created on the host level. Then they appear in the hypervisor, and can be affected by the hypervisor to the VMs.

In my opinion, when those tap0 and tap1 are created, I can tie them to the br0 , using ovs-vsctl.

So finally an important question probably is : how do I create tap0 and tap1 ? And what network-configuration should I give to them (probably dhcp-client) ?

I mean...this is how I understand the global infrastructure...
...But maybe I am making a misunderstanding ??? Does anyone have an experience about that ?



Another question, completely different:
When managing real physical manageable switches (Nortel, Cisco,...) when I configure a port as beeing 802.1Q (=multi-vlan ) , I must define a default vlan-id in this port (default value is usually 1). I could not see this kind of configuration in the doc of ovs. Is it a misunderstanding from me, or a missing feature in ovs ?

(note : I don't like to use the word "trunk" about 802.1q beceause in Netgear switches like FS726T "trunk" means agregate several ports to increase the bandwidth, so the word "trunk" can have different meaning depending on the manufacturer)


Henrique Rodrigues a écrit :
Hi Xavier,

I couldn't understand your setup. The steps I wrote on the previous email were supposed to be executed inside the virtual machine that you had created using virtualbox. I haven't changed the physical machine that is running virtualbox. Maybe what you want to do is completely different from what I understood.

    I will try to explain my actual situation.

    I created yesterday a bride br0 within ocs  (using ovs-vsctl)

    ovs-vsctl list-br   gives as result  "br0"

    ovs-vsctl list-ports  br0  gives as result : 6 lines of the
different ports I created

    note: I am just sorry that this "ovs-vsctl list-ports  br0" gives
    as a result only the name of the ports, and does not give also the
    vlan-id associated to each port. Could this improvement be
    included in the next releases of ovs ?

    When I read the docs, I suppose that when creating a port, this
    port is a 802.1q port by default. This port is dedicated to a vlan
    only if I clearly declare it.

    I just now added the "libdevplug2" package to my host.

    Now I am looking in Virtualbox, and I finally can see a new choice
    appearing:
    In a WM  network configuration, if I choose  bridge-mode, I can
    see a new choice after eth0 :   a new br0 interface has appeared.
    Can this be a result of adding the "libdevplug2" package ?
    But I am "surprised" to see that this new interface does dot
    appear in the ifconfig of the host.

    Now I have a new difficulty :  br0 is a switch having multiple
    ports. 1 port is supposed to be a 802.1q and the other 5 ports are
    supposed to be in 5 differents vlans. Of course I would like to
    attach my wm to a ports (ie to a vlan) and not to the whole bridge.

    Probably I should create a fake-bridge behind 1 vlan-port , and
    see if I can attach the VM to this fake-bridge ?




    Le 19/01/2011 12:54, Henrique Rodrigues a écrit :

        Hi Xavier,

        I'm using the setup openvswitch+vmware for testing my code. I'm
        replying because I had a similar problem in understanding the ovs
        ifaces at the beginning... I'm assuming you've installed ovs
        within
        the virtual box vm. The vm has only two interfaces, one of
        them is the
        vm's physical interface (eth0) and the other is the bridge
        iface that
        would be created by ovs (which can be seen as the "new vm physical
        interface". Ovs will be between these two interfaces, switching
        packets that have been sent through them.

        I don't know how the usermode ovs works,  but used these steps to
        setup ovs within the vmware vm:

        - Compile everything
        - Load the modules
        - Create the ovs bridge (ovs-vsctl add-br)
        - Add eth0 to the bridge (ovs-vsctl add-port) and unset it's
        ip addr
        (set it to 0.0.0.0)
        - Set the bridge iface ip addr to the vm's original ip addr.
        - ping to test.

        I hope this helps.

        --
        Henrique Rodrigues

        On Jan 19, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Xavier
        COUDIN<[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

            Le 19/01/2011 10:06, Justin Pettit a écrit :
                On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Xavier COUDIN wrote:


                    There is one thing I cannot understand for the
                    moment. Probably I still need to be more familiar
                    with the ovs concept.
                    I can bind the virtualswitch ( = bridge) to eth0.
                    But I would like to bind also the virtual-machines
                    (that I created inside VirtualBox) to the bridge
                    (or to a fake-bridge).
                    So I am expecting a way to create "pseudo" eth
                    interface(s)  in the host-machine, that could
                    appear in the VM-management-console, and that I
                    could bind to the VMs (and also to the bridge).

                This is outside the scope of OVS; it's dependent on
                your hypervisor to create those virtual interfaces.
                 For example, XenServer will create VIFs in the
                hypervisor (e.g., vif1.0, vif2.0), which are then
                attached to the bridge (e.g., xenbr0).  I'm not
                familiar enough with VirtualBox to know what they
                expose.  Can you get VirtualBox to work using the
                standard Linux bridge?  A "brctl show" will show you
                which interfaces are connected to which bridges.  You
                should then be able to replicate that with appropriate
                "ovs-vsctl" commands.

                --Justin



            In bridge mode , the VMs (forget about ovs) can use
            correctly the linux bridge, and reach internet ressources.

            Now, when we use ovs  (I mean, we try to make it
            work....)......
            the "brctl show" gives no answer :  just columns "bridge
            name   bridge id  STP enabled  Interface" , but no answer
            below it.



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