All,

I have reworded two of my comments.  The originals were
open to many interpretations, most of which were not
intended by me.  See below.

In an attempt to reengage the psychologists on this list who
seemed to have been shocked into silence at the sight of
their cherished research and noble ideas put to such apparent
base use, I will point out one argument against capitalist goals.

There are cases where the benefit to society may outweigh
a companies freedom to develop software as it sees fit.

The following paper should be a must read for every person
interested in improving the world.  And a very depressing
read it will probably be, to most people:

"High-Pressure Steam Engines and Computer Software" 
by Nancy Leveson: http://sunnyday.mit.edu/steam.pdf

Perhaps the psychologists on this list might venture to suggest
what they would say to the government, if asked to make
recommendations, backed up by scientific evidence:

   o that certain practices should be adopted by software
developers,

   o that certain people were not fit to write software (for
instance before starting work as an electronics trainee,
I had to take a test to show I was not colour blind;  wires
are colour coded and connecting the wrong coloured wires
can do more than blow up a chip.  No pass test, no job).

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>>  > Yes, automated tools will remove the need for 'good' programmers.

I was using the word need here in the sense of demand.  Also
reduce would be better than remove.

"Automated tools will reduce the demand for 'good' programmers."

>>  > But the purpose of software development is not to create a cadre
>>  > of good programmers, but to make money for their employers.

Of course money is too specific a term here.  Employees create value
for their employers, which is a more generalised concept than money.


derek

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