On 2004-09-14 10.02, Michael Toomim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1) Most people don't need to learn how to program

Agree

> 2) How low [in terms of levels of abstraction] do you go?

Yep, that's difficult. 

> 3) Education theory has been debating the validity of trying to teach 
> generally transferrable skills for at least a century.  I don't know of 
> any specific results for the ability of programming skills to transfer 
> to other aspects of life, but it seems that making a rigorous argument 
> for it would be difficult.

My experience (I work as a teacher at a university) and some papers (which I
don't currently remember, but probably something from ESP, PPIG or some
similar venue) is that transfer works very poorly. Beginning programmers
doesn't see the similarity between, for example, an if-statement i C and one
in Pascal. Each programming language is a new skill/concept to learn.




So if I were to decide I would let the students/pupils in ages 10-15 learn
more about physics, technology in general, etc than programming.


                            jem
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Jan Erik Mostr�m   www.mostrom.pp.se

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