20KB is just fine bandwidth at times of 100% usage. people complain if you down to 2KB all day long like we are here = worse than dialup. 100% usage only occurs during internet rush hour, 5 - 10 PM. Ppl needg big fast downloads will start them at 10pm and let them run all nite anyway. If everyone was on SKYPE or MSN Msngr or Yahoo Messenger, what bandwidth would each person need ??? ########################################################################
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Discuss mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DSL connection and other issues... (Steve Shapery) > 2. Re: DSL connection and other issues... (Matt Fanady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:09:52 -0800 (PST) > From: "Steve Shapery" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCFN] DSL connection and other issues... > To: "SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > > How much bandwidth do you want to allocate to each potential user? > > It's a simple math formula - if you have 10Mbps down, and you want to > provide 1Mbps per user, then you can support 10 users. If you want to > support 20 users, then you can assume 512Kbit per user if they all start > their sessions at the same time, and are doing roughly the same thing. > > QOS would not be a factor inbound, unless you do rate-limiting on the > pfsense box itself, limiting each outbound user to a certain cap. There > is no such thing as QOS on the public internet, everything is best-effort > first-come-first-served. > > > > > Kim C. Callis wrote: > > Very open, but it is because the client usage is so diverse. At the very > > low > > end of the spectrum is general browsing and email service. On the other > > end > > of the scope, I have streaming media users, torrent users, etc. I need to > > get a rough idea of how many users I can get away with based upon the > > limitations of the DSL circuit in place. > > > > K. > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Matt Fanady <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> That's a rather open ended question. You can support as many clients > >> as your access points can accommodate. What level of service are you > >> hoping to provide? > >> > >> -M@ > >> > >> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Kim C. Callis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Ok, you have a DSL connection that is 10m/2m. You clients are running > >> > 802.11g speeds. What is the maximum number clients that you can > >> support? > >> > Factor in QOS in the equation... How does the answer change with > >> bonding > >> in > >> > place. Say two DSL connections (same speeds), running through pfsense. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kim C. Callis > >> > [email protected] > >> > _____________________________________ > >> > > >> > Save the Cheerleader. Save the World. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > >> > To unsubscribe, please visit: > >> > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > >> To unsubscribe, please visit: > >> http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Kim C. Callis > > [email protected] > > _____________________________________ > > > > Save the Cheerleader. Save the World. > > _______________________________________________ > > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > > To unsubscribe, please visit: > > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:11:23 -0800 > From: Matt Fanady <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCFN] DSL connection and other issues... > To: "SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I would think the first step would be to figure out what sort of a > bandwidth commitment you're making to your clients. Are you promising > them 10 Mb/s? 5 Mb/s? 1 Mb/s? Or is this just best effort? You can > pretty easily get 30 people on one DSL line, and as long as you don't > have a guy maxing out your line w/ a torrent all day, it should be a > reasonably pleasant experience for everyone. If you do indeed have > people running torrents, you're going to want to set a bandwidth cap > for users. So I'd try to figure out what that cap would be first. > > -M@ > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Kim C. Callis <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Very open, but it is because the client usage is so diverse. At the very > low > > end of the spectrum is general browsing and email service. On the other > end > > of the scope, I have streaming media users, torrent users, etc. I need to > > get a rough idea of how many users I can get away with based upon the > > limitations of the DSL circuit in place. > > > > K. > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Matt Fanady <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> That's a rather open ended question. ?You can support as many clients > >> as your access points can accommodate. ?What level of service are you > >> hoping to provide? > >> > >> -M@ > >> > >> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Kim C. Callis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Ok, you have a DSL connection that is 10m/2m. You clients are running > >> > 802.11g speeds. What is the maximum number clients that you can > support? > >> > Factor in QOS in the equation... How does the answer change with > bonding > >> > in > >> > place. Say two DSL connections (same speeds), running through pfsense. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kim C. Callis > >> > [email protected] > >> > _____________________________________ > >> > > >> > Save the Cheerleader. Save the World. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > >> > To unsubscribe, please visit: > >> > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > >> To unsubscribe, please visit: > >> http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Kim C. 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