I myself wouldn't want an implant either, but I'm assuming syn/hak would
probably go with cards not implants. In either case both are passive RF
devices (with the ones that syn/hak would use; active == $$). As such,
they themselves don't pose any RF exposure threat. The polling device
(which sends out a very low power pulse, we're talking less than half a
watt) is no more a threat than your cellphone, and seeing as you're by
the RFID reader for far less time, its almost negligible.

And in so far as government surveillance with the limited range (at the
most around a few tens of feet for the awesome ones (ie probably not the
ones that syn/hak would be using)), there's already two much better ways
to track you: your cellphone and the internet. I wouldn't be worried
about these passive RFID cards if you use either of those. (unless you
only use TOR, use only cash, and ditch your phone every week)

Torrie,

W8UPD put up a RFID system with a battery backup using both an arduino
and then later a Raspberry Pi. If you'd like to replicate our system
it'd be decently easy. The system is pretty stable now and requires
little maintenance.

https://wiki.w8upd.org/wiki/Door_Access

KG4SGP - Jim

On 11/08/2013 08:16 PM, Robert Rybicki wrote:
> I wear a tin hat sometime too. I would prefer anonymity myself but with 
> advancements in imaging technology, drones, and satellites those hopes are 
> lost. I truly don't know if I should still resist or embrace it. 
>
> What concerns me is having a radio transponder in my person. The effect of 
> radio waves on biology are not fully understood. We don't know how much we 
> are messing up until years later when future generations look back and face 
> palm. 
>
> As a general rule for me I try to keep non biological things on the outside. 
> Chin implants erode bone tissue, silicone makes hard breasts, and titanium 
> alloys can leach aluminum. Just saying, as it is with everything you have to 
> weigh the good with the bad. I just do not see the advantage in this 
> technology yet.   
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:06 PM, "Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron)" 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive me for this wet blanket thought: but this implant idea has 
>> dangerous, far reaching, freedom destroying, potential.  If big brother 
>> keeps tabs on out phone calls now, what would he do with this level of 
>> financial and geographical tracking device?  Sounds too much like the 
>> foretold mark of the beast to me.
>>
>> V/R
>> Tim Seeley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Torrie Fischer
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:35 PM
>> To: SYN/HAK discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Interesting project to show SYN/HAK
>>
>>> On Friday, November 08, 2013 11:28:52 Justin Herman wrote:
>>> What are we needing for the door?
>> An RFID reader chip and external housing, a properly designed+built 12v DC 
>> power supply instead of the ugly PSU hack that is fail-insecure that can be 
>> toggled by an arduino, and a circuit to interface the arduino with the RFID 
>> chip and whatever power supply it needs.
>>
>> And a bunch of RFID tokens for people.
>>
>> I think thats it, really. If someone wants to design the whole thing as a 
>> small single circuit, I can arrange to produce some circuit boards to be 
>> populated and easily assembled by others that want the same setup. Bonus 
>> points for using a raw AVR chip.
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Torrie Fischer
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> On Friday, November 01, 2013 09:41:37 David Sikes wrote:
>>>>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-xnt-implantable-nfc-chip You guys
>>>>> might be interested in this.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an implantable microchip that can be installed by your local
>>>>> piercing artist that can then be used to share links, virtual business
>>>>> cards, unlock doors, log in to computers, all kinds of amazing things!
>>>>> If
>>>>> you could help us share this with the community so we can get this to be
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> reality, it would be amazing and sincerely appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also be more than happy to work with you to set up authentication
>>>>> systems that are NFC compatible and can work with this chip, such as the
>>>>> one we have implemented to open the door at FamiLAB in Orlando.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! If you have any questions, let me know!
>>>> Neat. We're looking to get an NFC door lock going, but we haven't invested
>>>> in
>>>> the components for it yet.
>>>>
>>>>> By the way, you guys win at hackerspace names.
>>>> woo, thanks!
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Sikes
>>>>> Owner, Sikes PC Repair
>>>>>
>>>>> Cell/Work: (407) 463-2925
>>>>> Mail: [email protected]
>>>>> http://www.SikesPC.com
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