As
a somewhat newer member, I find Syn/Hak to be a community not a
corporation.  I find the concept of it being an open source
hackerspace is a great thing.  The foundation of open source is
to share and collaborate.  I find education is an important part of
a community.  Not everyone is an expert in every field, why
having a diverse group to share knowledge is part of the concept.  Of
course there is going to be disagreements on what people think, it is
human nature.  As the person who sparked the idea of this place,
I believe you an extreme value to this place.


Sincerely,
Alex Kot





On Friday, February 21, 2014 7:07 PM, a l <[email protected]> wrote:
 
I'm on my phone so I'll be briefer than is warranted for the topic.
Regarding the sublease of space to a member. I was under the impression that 
this activity had been discussed and mentioned in the list a few times. I don't 
recall any intentional hiding of this arrangement. I thought, perhaps 
erroniously, that this had been brought up as a proposal.  
I agree with parts and disagree with others but I'm glad you brought it up; I'm 
sure if one person gets an impression others have it as well.
Regards,
Andrew L
On Feb 21, 2014 6:03 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, hakkers.
>
>This is something thats been bothering me for some time, so I want to discuss
>it with everyone. This is a mail that I've edited and re-edited over the last
>few months, so it isn't in response to recent bizops@ discussion.
>
>I'm not happy with SYNHAK's image and our interpersonal communication.
>
>I feel that some members of the community are trying to treat SYNHAK as a
>faceless corporation that caters to people who pay dues. I often hear of
>strong delineations between Members and non-members, where Members have first
>pickings for certain things or other rights that are not given to non-Members.
>Over the weekend, I saw someone say "SYNHAK is starting an ISP!". SYNHAK, Inc
>has a handful of tax exempt accounts at various local establishments with no
>clear rules on how to use them. We're sacrificing hacking space to one person
>through a real lease, with legalese and everything. I can't count how many
>times I've heard the phrase "SYNHAK is going to do X" as if it were some
>official statement that everyone is obliged to follow.
>
>My last full day of Champion is 6 days away, on February 27th. I'm not running
>for the Board or re-running for Champion. I'm not doing those because I want
>to finally step back and enjoy the fruits of my labor as a member. I'm lately
>finding it hard to enjoy, as I feel that the collaborative culture of SYNHAK
>is being slowly eroded away in favor of behind-the-back communication
>channels, assumptions that others who disagree with you are acting in bad
>faith, and "Professionalism".
>
>To me, SYNHAK is a community that wants to build a space for hackers. As part
>of that mission, there is a limited infrastructure that is used by the
>community to collect rent, pay bills, and protect that limited infrastructure
>against legal hassles. It isn't a machine shop, a computer lab, an event
>space, a datacenter, a warehouse, a garage, a classroom, or even a kitchen. 48
>S. Summit has those features. 48 S. Summit is a side effect of SYNHAK that is
>a result  of that limited infrastructure's mission to provide a space for
>hackers to accomplish what they want to accomplish.
>
>48 S. Summit isn't SYNHAK. It is our community's largest group project that
>many of us are working on in whatever ways we think are the most helpful way
>to carve out a space for hackers like ourselves. The electronics lab isn't
>SYNHAK, Inc.'s electronics lab. It is a tool that the community we have come
>to call "SYNHAK" can use and in exchange maintains. Much of it is on loan from
>members, some of it is even owned by the limited infrastructure set forth in
>our bylaws and incorporation document filed with the State of Ohio. The same
>can be said about our kitchen, data center, etc, etc. If someone wants to run
>an educational program out of 48 S. Summit, they are more than welcome to.
>SYNHAK, Inc does not and *should not* run educational programs. I do not want
>anyone to feel obligated to contribute to running an educational program. The
>global community of hackers or a subset thereof are welcome to use SYNHAK to
>run an educational program in the City of Akron, but that is their own
>endeavor.
>
>I live outside mainstream culture. The world is full of interesting problems
>to be solved. Attitude is no substitute for competence. Freedom is good; I
>have an instinctive hostility towards censorship, secrecy, and the use of
>deception to compel others. I'm always willing to act on those beliefs.
>
>When I'm done as Champion, I will continue to use our limited governance
>infrastructure to carve out a space for hackers in the City of Invention.
>
>SYNHAK is a hacker space. A space for hackers. Not a space for corporate
>bullshit.
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