1> do we have a processes for issuing Admin rights to new admin's?
2> If no, then How do other companies bring on new admins?
3> Who are our current admins?
4> What rights do they have for what services/virtual spaces.



On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:

> As a sysadmin myself, I'd have to agree with the extra scrutiny for
> digital assets. I don't see it as a personal attack on anyone that
> regarding this scrutiny, we've spent the past three years fine tuning this
> virtual space to what it is now. Our virtual space is not like our physical
> space at all, you can't walk in to 48 South Summit and accidentally burn
> the whole building down with a typo or wrong command with ease, but that is
> MUCH easier to do on our virtual space.
>
> I've been involved with Synhak since Torrie's garage and in all this time,
> I have decided not to get involved with the AWS instances for this reason
> since I typo alot, instead I applied my talents elsewhere. Although, it
> would be nice if anyone who wanted to try their hand at improving our AWS
> instance or "Virtual Space" had sudo access to a sandbox duplicate, then we
> can only commit changes to the live instance that are proven to work while
> only providing read only access to the live instance. Keep in mind that the
> "Virtual Space" you are talking about does not just contain the website, as
> I understand it, Spiff is also on AWS, which handles, among other things,
> our membership database. Let's please try to keep admin rights to this on a
> "need to know" basis. I feel the term "positive control" (I know I use it
> alot) applies well in this scenario.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Torrie Fischer 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 17, 2014 18:22:38 Justin Herman wrote:
>> > NOTE: Chris and Torrie were able to decrypt it with their private key's.
>> >
>> > In order to avoid extra noise and virtual conflict I have opted to
>> answer
>> > any questions during our meeting. I will be available to answer any
>> > questions during that time. This is equivalent in conditions met to
>> acquire
>> > a Physical Space key.
>>
>> Noise implies useless information. I'm certain that SYNHAK would find
>> someone's reason for wanting access to AWS and all of our servers to be
>> useful
>> and even important information.
>>
>> I'm concerned about this "virtual conflict" you perceive. Why would you
>> think
>> that an open discussion about security would create conflict?
>>
>> You're also aware that meeting in person during a meeting aren't the
>> conditions for getting a key, right? It involves a proposal for Consensus.
>> There's also the fact that a physical door key is completely different
>> from
>> having administrative access to synhak.org.
>>
>> I will block any proposal to grant you AWS access on the grounds that you
>> haven't demonstrated why I should trust you, and that you're currently
>> demonstrating some interesting interpretations of protocols.
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Torrie Fischer
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> > > On Monday, March 17, 2014 17:05:56 Justin Herman wrote:
>> > > > SOME KIND OF BLOB
>> > >
>> > > Ok. Right.
>> > >
>> > > You sent a SSH key signed with a PGP key that I have not verified. The
>> > > signed
>> > > key was encrypted with my public key, meaning that only I could
>> decrypt
>> > > it.
>> > >
>> > > Justin, are you aware that we are also asking you questions and not
>> just
>> > > asking for an SSH key? I'll copy them again:
>> > >
>> > > VVVV QUESTIONS VVVV
>> > >
>> > > 1.) What is your primary purpose for requesting access to AWS?
>> > > 2.) What problems with the current website and online infrastructure
>> do
>> > > you
>> > > currently see that require AWS root and sudo access to solve?
>> > > 3.) What improvements can you offer to the overall infrastructure?
>> > > 4.) Are you familiar with Ansible, the configuration-management
>> software
>> > > used
>> > > to configure, deploy and maintain servers? If not, do you intend to
>> learn
>> > > about it?
>> > >
>> > > ^^^^ QUESTIONS ^^^^
>> > >
>> > > In case they kept getting lost in the noise of this thread, I've also
>> > > trimmed
>> > > out the rest of the inline quotes.
>> > >
>> > > There seems to be a pattern of not answering any questions when
>> directly
>> > > asked. Would you prefer that I ask them in private instead of on
>> discuss@?
>> > > I'm
>> > > often at the space, so I can handle either e-mail or in person. I
>> would
>> > > still
>> > > need to relay the answers to a public forum such as noc@ to preserve
>> > > transparency about our site security and keep everyone else up to date
>> > > with
>> > > who has unlimited and absolute power over synhak.org.
>> > >
>> > > If you're not able to make this work, then I can't really give you
>> access.
>>
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