Re: [SH-Discuss] Metal cabinet for flammables

J. F. Corner Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:59:21 -0700

In regards to fire safety and proper protocol, it might be best to seek a professional opinion. I know that the Akron Fire Department does inspections, not sure if they can offer help beforehand though.
http://www.akronohio.gov/cms/site/4a039cafb0b41e6f/index.html

On 4/1/2014 15:13, a l wrote:

I'm pretty sure if we intend to have a dedicated welding area the insurance and fire safety people will require it.

Regards,
Andrew L

On Apr 1, 2014 5:53 AM, "Omar Rassi" <[email protected]> wrote:

Well, there goes the draft I just wrote about fire safety. Thank Justin! Gosh! ;-)

It doesn't have to be locked, at the armory we have a cabinet for class B flammables in supply and it isn't locked. It is a good idea to have one if you're storing these kinds of materials.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Michael Griesacker <[email protected]> wrote:

Well put, Justin

On Mar 31, 2014 11:12 PM, "Justin Herman" <[email protected]> wrote:

BTW here is the OSHA regs for storage of flammable liquids.

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=10673&p_table=STANDARDS

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote:

The purpose of a flammables cabinet in most workshops is to slow and control a fire. Different types of fuel require different extinguish techniques.
Example:

Class A fires (wood, paper, fabric [materials that produce ash]) can be put out with water.

Class B fires (oil, natural gas, kerosine, paint, aerosols, stains) should never not have water applied. (it can spread the fuel and the fire) Using CO2 is the proper technique for class B fires.

A fire cabinet can allow for independent methods of controlling the fire. It can mean the difference of a major loss of a corner or a total loss of several buildings.

I have a fire cabinet in my garage for that exact purpose.

I think it would be a good idea to get a place to store all class B fuels, and I support the idea of getting some type of cabinet. It might be a good idea to look for a spent oil rag bin also.

Justin

PS: REMEMBER: Fire extinguishers are NOT for putting out fires but are for clearing a path to escape. Countless trained professionals, with more experience than any of us, have died because they assumed they could handle a fire. Evacuate and call 911. Nothing is important enough to risk your life and attempt to fight a fire.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> wrote:

TF

As discussed on Sunday, I can donate a 4-drawer metal filing cabinet to SH.

It has a lock installed but no key available.

Can the filing cabinet be used for flammable materials or would you use it to store SH paperwork?

PP

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> wrote:

On Monday, March 31, 2014 21:30:48 Seeley, Tim wrote:
> Such a restriction would be in the same vain as the restriction placed on
> risk producing power tools. Nonmembers would still have access to the
> flammables but would need to do so through one who has been vetted to be
> responsible enough to have a key. Together the flammables user and the key
> holder should see that the flammable material is returned to its safe
> storage when no longer in use and before departing the space. If keyed
> same as the door then there will always be someone there with the key to
> the cabinet. If it were a separate key then one more key type to keep
> track of.

Sounds fine.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Torrie Fischer Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 5:18 PM
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> On Monday, March 31, 2014 21:05:33 Seeley, Tim wrote:
> > Challenge: Some projects and donations involve containers of
> > flammable materials. To my knowledge there currently is no designated
> > flammables safe storage area.
> >
> > Solution: create a designated flammables safe storage area.
> >
> > I may not be able to make tomorrow's meeting. Would someone please
> > bring up the possible need for a Flammable materials cabinet at the
> > space. I have seen at various location paints, solvents, flammable
> > aerosols... Something to consider as well, would be the flammables
> > cabinet's location in the space relative to exits. There might be
> > some advantages if it were locked and keyed to the same key as the front
> > door.
> What might those advantages be?
>
> I'm not a fan of restricting things to "only members", since we're a public
> resource.
> > Thanks
> > Orvel
>
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