On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 01:31:25 Craig Bergdorf wrote:
> To expand: the solutions that people use (including myself who recently put
> a cam in a welding station of a shop), are just letting less light into the
> camera by either aggressive iris settings or an external wideband filter
> (deep sunglasses) and compensate with software to be able to bounce off
> saturation in a small area, or buy a camera rated for this.  Week 3 of a
> decent (c-mount) ip cam starring at 3 welding stations with no problems so
> far.  I just locked the motorized iris at minimum during open hours and
> compensate with software, it's grainy, but acceptable.  After closing it
> goes back to auto for night stalking.
> 
> Uv is just far easier (higher efficiency) for ccds to pickup than the
> visible light spectrum, why a nikon d100 slr with the uv filter carefully
> pryed off the sensor makes for some amazing pictures.
> 
> Afaik The cam isn't pointed at where welding is expected to happen, I think
> were good without drastically lowering the signal to noise ratio with a
> filter.  A few pixels saturating doesn't hurt it, only a whole row, and at
> that point, IR heat is what's going to do the damage.
> 
> Can we just leave it? And mention "please be aware of the camera if your
> going to weld in a new place until the walls are done"?

I'm cool with this. Its a lot easier than trying to solve a problem that has 
happened only once before and we already know to never point the camera at the 
welder.

The welder shouldn't even be in a place where someone could casually glance at 
it anyways, but walls will help with that.

> 
> On Apr 2, 2014 12:32 AM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 01, 2014 17:41:09 a l wrote:
> > > We should get a lens filter to alleviate this issue. I don't think
> > 
> > they're
> > 
> > > terribly expensive
> > 
> > UV light doesn't kill a CCD.
> > 
> > It is more about the net intensity than any particular wavelength.
> > 
> > Welding creates a spark gap transmitter, which emits radiation in a wide
> > range
> > of frequencies. There isn't any one distinct frequency, as it is
> > essentially a
> > form of white noise across the EM spectrum.
> > 
> > Pointing the camera at the sun won't kill it. Taking every photon that
> > hits
> > within the city limits of Akron and squeezing it into a densely packed and
> > tiny CCD will, as the absorption will produce a lot of heat.
> > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Andrew L
> > > 
> > > On Mar 29, 2014 6:52 PM, "Justin Herman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Just as a reminder, If you are welding, you need to not do it in front
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > > the webcam. The CCD is not protected from the UV light the welder
> > > > produces.
> > > > The UV will damage the Webcam.
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Torrie Fischer
> > 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > >> Webcam's back!
> > > >> 
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