No consensus is needed in my opinion. Just plan a meeting and see who shows up.

On May 2, 2014 9:16 PM, a l <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Does this -need- a proposal to happen? Historically we have reserved 
> proposals to large changes to how the community conducts it's business. 
> Organizing projects to avoid squished toes and bruised egos is great, but I 
> guess I'm not sure we need an official structured work group to get shelves 
> built or pallet floors put together. 
> I don't have any hard issues with this(ie; would not block) on the face, just 
> wondering if we -need- an official-on-the-books rule to accomplish it. Was 
> this the same problem build@ and bizops@ were supposed to solve? Related: If 
> we make this, will it actually get used? We have a history of poor 
> communication. 
>
> regards,
> Andrew L
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Craig,
>>
>> Add me to the list.  
>>
>> I will be happy to help in any way I can.  
>>
>> A good plan and a project leader will be an effective solution to the chaos 
>> now in progress.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I love this idea Craig. I would definitely second it.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 01:12:54 -0400
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] c-bog
>>>
>>>
>>> I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG
>>> (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out 
>>> loud))
>>> In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually 
>>> before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block.  As with 
>>> the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will 
>>> start a civil war.
>>>   
>>> I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the 
>>> sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again 
>>> without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on 
>>> infrastructure, the better.  It has breed entitlement, countless 
>>> disagreements on how things "must" be done, and the worst: fights on who 
>>> the space owes more.  (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.)
>>>   
>>> The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard 
>>> forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working 
>>> towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a 
>>> cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k).  The treasurer would be 
>>> instrumental in this process.  In my head, this is little more than walls, 
>>> details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away 
>>> (during this struggle) have de-donated.  Other than the piles of stuff 
>>> being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March.  
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> p.s.
>>> If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to 
>>> someone's face.  I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not 
>>> have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when 
>>> your not looking at your target through a computer screen.  We will all see 
>>> each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of 
>>> something that exists at a single physical location.  Why people would use 
>>> such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face 
>>> I must not grasp.
>>>
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