Justin, Thank you for you in-depth feedback. I appreciate your comments, questions, and suggestions.
I will be speaking with Angelo this afternoon and will discuss the contents of your message with him. Expect a longer, detailed reply to your message later this evening or in the morning. Philip On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote: > Philip, > > I think bringing more tools and people into the space would be an awesome > idea. I do have a few concerns though... > > 1. Storage and growth of "donated" & "stored" bikes. If we adopt this plan > we need to find a way to be clear how donations will be used and that > storage is a membership privilege. Donated parts need to be stored not on > the floor. How about the ceiling? Bike hooks? Ceiling mounted shelving? > Pulleys? > 2. The budget for $650 seems a bit low for everything listed at homedepot. > It might be prudent to shop this list out and firm it up with current > market prices. > 3. Angelo, during the meeting, had spoke about welders and torch sets but > I don't see them listed in the list. Is that additional costs or are they > included? > 4. Where/What will we store these new tools in? Maybe it might be smart to > include a tool chest with wheels. We then could organise the tools and keep > a clean working environment. A clean working environment not only stays > clean easier but is something that ALOT of us don't have access to at home > making it very valuable. > 5. SynHak's current financial situation is bleak currently. We don't know > if we have the membership to support our current expenses (~$1200). I know > that the BikeHackShop has the opportunity to bring in new visitors and > create a possibility for new members joining. The root issue I see for > giving pause is that this has no real firm ROI from this plan, and > currently SynHak is losing money each month. {devils advocate} We could > spend this $ and not see enough membership added to support us remaining > open for much more than a year. > > I know last night (at the meeting) it was brought up to use the option to > use the National Civic Day of Hacking (NCDH) grant money to fund this idea. > I cannot stress that I DO NOT support this option until I know more about > the details of the eligibility & availability of the funds. Many grants can > only be used for certain purposes and must be returned if not used. We MUST > first determine how those funds can be used before "ear-marking" them for > other purposes. > > I understand that the time is ticking and the season is moving forward BUT > we must tread carefully or risk creating a deeper financial hole that > SynHak may not be able to recover from. > > Some ways we could get more interest>visitor>membership: > 1. Get a class together on season bike tune up. (do this ASAP as the > Bike/Train schedule will be opening back-up to Northside soon) > 2. Get a sign outside showing our hours of operation. > 3. Get a starter repair kit together. Patch, lube, basic box wrenches, Air > & put it in the bike area now. > 4. Put a donation can out for non member use. (maybe a suggested donation > of a few bucks an hour might be good) > 5. Create an advertising plan, with flyers, webpage, meetup, word of mouth. > 6. Create a "bike tune-up"/"bike show off" night. We could then organise a > spin about the city. > 7. Apply for grants for additional funding to support more > tools/additional stations. > 8. Loosely record non-member usage in ledger to help showing impact of > item 7. > > > I want to repeat. I think a bike shop area with specialized tools would be > wonderful. I think it is a great plan to seek Angelo's advice and tools to > execute it. I want to see this happen. Lets do it carefully and not put > SynHak in more financial risk. > > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Justin, >> >> Molly, Mary Alice, Bertha, Inez, and Ruth have all expressed an interest >> in the proposal. >> >> You actually read the entire four pages? >> >> Do you want to second the proposal? >> >> I would like to present the proposal - only the first paragraph - to the >> membership and visitors at the meeting this evening. >> >> Philip >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Philip who else is sponsoring this? >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> PROPOSAL >>>> This is a formal Proposal to remodel and equip the space now known as >>>> the Bike Shop at SYN/HAK and to purchase bike-specific and general-use >>>> tools. The project requires a lot of work, lots of tools, and some >>>> equipment to actually become a functioning bicycle maintenance and repair >>>> station. The estimated cost for paint, lighting, electrical upgrades, >>>> workbenches, equipment, and tools is $1100. An in-progress list of things >>>> to buy with the allocated funds is included at the end of this message. >>>> Note that it is subject to revision. The Proposal is to be funded by >>>> SYN/HAK. >>>> >>>> BACKGROUND >>>> Back in November 2013, when I first visited SYN/HAK, the prospect of >>>> having a place where I could learn more about bikes and make some bike >>>> accessories was high on my list of reasons to attend meetings and return to >>>> SYN/HAK to work on my projects. >>>> >>>> In April of 2014, in the spirit of do'ocracy, I cleared out and cleaned >>>> about 15 linear feet of floor space in the hallway, at the end near the >>>> wood/metal workshop. I designated the area as the Bike Shop, installed >>>> signage on the walls, set up a computer and a laser printer, and >>>> temporarily moved a workbench to the space. >>>> >>>> ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND COMMENTS FROM G >>>> G was sad in April, and still is sad still regarding Angelo, per: >>>> https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008167.html >>>> >>>> Recently (5/27/2014) Rustbelt Magazine published profile of Tiny >>>> Circuits and the Detroit Bicycle Company: >>>> http://beltmag.com/how-to-make-it/ >>>> >>>> Between my last observation and profile of Angelo, SYN/HAK's >>>> acquisition of additional tools, like a pipe bender and welders and the >>>> RustBelt article, I conclude that bike makers might be born right out of >>>> SYN/HAK, but it just has not happened as of yet. >>>> >>>> A Bike Shop at SYN/HAK will complement the Bike Kitchen in downtown >>>> Akron, which legally cannot and will not weld in their facility, thereby >>>> providing services that limit creation of a bicycle from scratch. >>>> >>>> When I say Angelo is a living legend, I really mean it. At his age, he >>>> should be designing bikes with volunteer help, such that his designs can >>>> see the light of day, once and for all. To a certain degree, he is a maker >>>> with tools in hand. Thus far, he has not had the opportunity to network and >>>> mentor like-minded individuals that have the capacity to create new >>>> human-powered moving things. >>>> >>>> If a SYN/HAK Bike Shop is realized, it will change our bicycle-based >>>> community in Akron forever. If will have an noticeable effect, even in >>>> terms of economic impact. >>>> >>>> As you all may know, it's not rainbows and unicorns with Angelo's >>>> circumstance; it's more of an intellectual challenge. >>>> >>>> Akron is going to lose a valuable talent. Angelo does indeed want to >>>> move to Italy on a human powered vehicle of his design. Its an ambitious >>>> goal that I wish him luck with. I hope that through the Bike Shop at >>>> SYN/HAK, some of his ideas and knowledge can be allowed to be shared and >>>> actually worked on, hopefully quickly, but in such a way that knowledge is >>>> not lost. Remember, before the printed word, there was an oral-only >>>> tradition of communication. I firmly believe that with the schedule that >>>> Angelo has, it will be entirely possible to not only accommodate and outfit >>>> SYN/HAK for bike fabrication, but to train members and non-members alike >>>> with the invaluable bike building skills that he has. If members have not >>>> visited Angelo's workshop yet, I invite you to visit him when Summit >>>> Cycling is open. Contact me for his cell phone. >>>> >>>> Lastly, he lives very near to the downtown area. If the Bike Shop >>>> becomes a reality at SYN/HAK, I'm sure he will be making wonderful powered >>>> things here. We all should seriously give this opportunity a thought >>>> together. >>>> >>>> OBJECTIVE >>>> A working Bike Shop at SYN/HAK, with the proper tools and necessary >>>> equipment, will be a valuable addition to the list of services, activities, >>>> and opportunities already available at the space. It will be an investment >>>> in the future of SYN/HAK, in that it will serve as a major point of >>>> interest and activity for both members and non-members. A Bike Shop will >>>> provide users with everything needed to perform bike maintenance, do >>>> repairs, restore old bikes, repaint bikes, and fabricate new bikes, >>>> trikes, and carriers. SYN/HAK will be able to provide users access to the >>>> tools and equipment in the Bike Shop most any day of the week, depending on >>>> the Open Hours schedule. It will be the only Bike Shop in the Akron area >>>> that is open to members and to the community at large (and free of charge) >>>> that will permit all the activities needed to do maintenance, repair, >>>> restoration, and fabrication on bikes, including welding, painting, >>>> sand-blasting, and tube-bending. In addition, the Bike Shop will be a new >>>> area of learning that will offer one-on-one instruction by volunteers and >>>> monthly classes by members or invited experts on certain weeknights and/or >>>> weekends. It will also serve as a place to accept and distribute bike >>>> donations. There are no plans to sell parts or accessories at the Bike >>>> Shop or charge for any services in the name of SYN/HAK. There are no plans >>>> to charge for access to the Bike Shop for anybody. The Bike Shop will be a >>>> year-round activity point at SYN/HAK. >>>> >>>> IMMEDIATE WORK NECESSARY >>>> >>>> In order to make the Bike Shop a reality, the floor and walls need to >>>> be cleaned, patched, and painted. Overhead fluorescent lighting needs to >>>> be installed, along with a wall switch. Electrical receptacles need to be >>>> installed on the interior wall. Three 30in wide by 60in long by 30in high >>>> workbenches, on casters, need to be constructed and placed in position. >>>> Pegboard needs to be installed behind the workbenches on the interior >>>> wall. Two full-length shelves need to be installed above the pegboard on >>>> the interior wall. The acquisition cost for the materials and hardware is >>>> $650. In order to work on bikes, in any capacity, there are many >>>> bike-specific tools that are necessary to be available at all times in the >>>> Bike Shop. Negotiations are in progress to acquire a such a set of tools, >>>> along with other equipment and supplies, from Angelo Coletta. He is the >>>> owner and operator of Summit Cycling, now located at Canal Place. Angelo >>>> will be retiring soon and plans to move to Italy within the next few >>>> months. The acquisition cost for stuff from Angelo is estimated at $450. >>>> Read more about Angelo and Summit Cycling in the email from G that was >>>> sent to Discuss on April 15, 2014. >>>> >>>> ACTION AFTER APPROVAL >>>> Immediately on approval of this proposal and receipt of the necessary >>>> funds, work will begin to clean, paint, remodel, and equip the space. >>>> Paint and painting equipment will be purchased and the walls and floor >>>> will be painted. Materials and hardware to construct the workbenches, >>>> pegboard, shelving, lighting, and receptacles will be purchased, built, and >>>> installed. The tools and equipment from Angelo will be purchased and moved >>>> from Summit Cycling to SYN/HAK. All the work necessary to accomplish the >>>> goals of this Proposal will be done by waiting and eager volunteers, >>>> including both members and non-members. The project is expected to take no >>>> more than two weeks to complete. >>>> >>>> GRAND OPENING >>>> After completing the work and trying a few maintenance routines or >>>> repairs on existing bikes now at the space, a Grand Opening for the Bike >>>> Shop will be held on Saturday, July 5th, 2014, from noon to 10pm. The >>>> event will will coincide with the monthly Art Walk. Refreshments will be >>>> served at the event. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Addendum to the BIKE SHOP PROPOSAL >>>> >>>> List of Stuff to Buy from Angelo Coletta/Summit Cycling and Home Depot >>>> >>>> Estimated Total Cost = $1100 >>>> >>>> NOTE - this list is under constant revision. Items may be added or >>>> subtracted or the description modified, as necessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Tools and equipment from Angelo Coletta/Summit Cycling >>>> >>>> Estimated Cost = $450 >>>> >>>> bike repair stand >>>> bench vise, 4in >>>> tire levers, 3 >>>> tire seater, 1 >>>> air pump, hand, with adapters >>>> air gauge, 0-100 psi >>>> spoke wrench >>>> cone wrenches (13, 14, 15, 16, and 17) >>>> wrench, box and/or open, SAE, various sizes >>>> wrench, box and/or metric, various sizes >>>> wrench, metric, Allen head, various sizes >>>> wrench, ratcheting box and open end, various sizes >>>> sockets, 3/8in drive, SAE and metric, various sizes. >>>> punch, center and drift styles >>>> Crescent wrench, 3, small/med/large >>>> Vise-Grip wrench, 3, small/med/large >>>> hammer, soft face >>>> hammer, ballpein, 8oz and 16oz >>>> hammer, sledge, 3# >>>> screwdrivers, slot head and Phillips head, various sizes >>>> chain tool >>>> crank wrench and puller >>>> pedal wrench, 15mm >>>> pedal taps, various sizes >>>> frame taps, various sizes >>>> head wrench, 32mm and 36mm >>>> head wrench and chain whip >>>> adjusting cup pin spanner >>>> chain cleaning equipment >>>> chain checker >>>> pin spanner, various sizes >>>> sprocket remover >>>> freewheel removers, various sizes >>>> torque wrench >>>> cable and housing cutter >>>> cable pulling pliers >>>> brake wrench, off-set, vaious sizes >>>> brake toe-in tool >>>> bottom bracket tools >>>> cotterless crank wrench >>>> cotterless crank puller >>>> crank cotter remover >>>> >>>> All tools to be inventoried, marked, stored, and used only in the Bike >>>> Shop. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Lumber, hardware, lighting, electrical from Home Depot >>>> >>>> Estimated Cost = $650 >>>> >>>> paint, wall, white, latex, gallon (2) >>>> paint, floor, gray, latex enamel, gallon (1) >>>> disposable paint tray (2) >>>> disposable paint roller, 9in (2) >>>> fluorescent light fixture, two-bulb, 4ft, with hanging chain (4) >>>> 4-gang receptacle, wall mount, in steel box, conduit connection (3) >>>> conduit, 1/2in, 10ft (4) >>>> switch, wall mount, in steel box, conduit connection (1) >>>> lumber, plywood, and hardware to build three workbenches, 30in x 30in x >>>> 60in using standard 2x4 lumber for frame, 3/4in plywood for top, and >>>> Simpson Strong- Tie connectors and screws for assembly (not painted, top >>>> installed with screws to allow reversal or replacement) >>>> casters, 3in, rubber tire, for workbenches (12) >>>> pegboard, 1/4 hole, 4x8 sheet (2) (mounted on wall with furring strips, >>>> painted) >>>> pegboad hangers, various sizes, as necessary >>>> lumber, shelf, 1x12, 8ft (4) >>>> wall brackets, 12in (12) >>>> wall standards, 36in (6) >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This Proposal was submitted by Philip Patnode, a SYN/HAK member, on >>>> Tuesday, June 3, 2014, by email to [email protected] and in person >>>> at the weekly meeting. >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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