Hola Marcos,

me consta que el tema ha llegado al Community Council. De todos modos
tenemos que tener paciencia, pues el CC quedó muy tocado tras el fork
con la salida, precisamente por conflicto de intereses, de muchos de sus
miembros a TDF. Creo que no se han vuelto a reunir oficialmente desde
que la gente que se fue a TDF dimitió.

Pero estoy convencido que veremos cambios sobre todo esto en un futuro
más o menos "cercano".

Un saludo,

Ramon

Marcos Delgado wrote:
> 2010/12/15 Ariel Constenla-Haile <[email protected]>:
>> Hola *,
>>
>> para quienes están todavía creen ver algún conflicto de intereses por estos
>> lares (y para los que no), les puede resultar interesante este hilo:
>> http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listÞv&by=thread&from$42350
>> y la respuesta de Peter Junge que sigue a continuación
>> Original en
>> http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listÞv&msgNo1183
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>>
>> Subject: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9
>> Date: Wednesday 15 December 2010, 05:37:32
>> From: Peter Junge <[email protected]>
>> To: Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]>
>> CC: [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>> Hi Alexandro,
>>
>> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>> Hi I want to ask the budget commitee for 500 dls for expenses to
>>> SCALEx9. I want to put the petition even if SCALE still have not
>>> finished the CFP. I submitted a couple of talks and I am still waiting
>>> for the final approval. However budget processes have been a bit slow
>>> lately so I want to put an early petition here.
>> maybe the processes are slow because you are sending your request
>> recurrently to the wrong address. AFAIR, Florian had mentioned this many
>> times. A budget request has to raised with the budget custodian, which
>> is currently me. Mailing lists are welcome to be CCed, but it's not
>> mandatory.
>>
>>> Last year I participated with a lightning talk on OOo4Kids which you
>>> can watch here: http://jza.blip.tv/file/3261755/
>>>
>>> After the talk I got to talk with the core organizers which were
>>> interested into expanding the participation for communities such as
>>> OOo in the US. And geared me to participate next year with a wider
>>> talk about OOo/ODF etc. This year I am giving a talk on ODF with an
>>> OpenGovernment angle, targeting the success stories gather from South
>>> America and Europe.
>> If we fund you to attend the SCALEx9, we have to make sure that you are
>> still with OOo. I had a look at the ES project at the OOo website and I
>> have to say, that there are a couple of issues puzzling me, hence I want
>> to raise some concerns:
>>
>> Firstly, the design of http://es.openoffice.org/ is not as it should be
>> with OOo. Usually one finds the main project links such as member list,
>> mailing lists etc., but they are hidden. They only becoming visible
>> after moving on to "Conoce OOo" or "Servicios". Being there, I have been
>> having a look at "Comunidad::Listas de Correos" and got really
>> irritated. (http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html) The OOo
>> mailing lists have apparently been dropped in preference of other
>> mailing lists hosted as http://oooes.org/. I'm not in favor for such a
>> solution, but it might still be a agreement of the community. However,
>> the worst problem for me is, that the OOo mailing list archives are not
>> reachable from this point. IMHO, that's totally inappropriate. Even more
>> confusing is, that the d...@es mailing list still seems to have
>> significant traffic, see:
>> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listNameÞv
>> Can you please comment my above observations.
>>
>> Secondly, I have been visiting http://oooes.org/ then. It promotes both
>> OOo and LibreOffice, which many here see as a competing product and
>> community. So, if you are going to attend the SCALEx9 on behalf and the
>> expenses of OOo, will yo exclusively promote OOo or will you promote the
>> whole ecosystem? The flow chart
>> (http://oooes.org/images/interacciones-oooes.png) on the main page looks
>> a bit like OOoES is closer tight to the TDF and LibO, rather than OOo.
>> (BTW, the way OOoES is using the new OOo logo is IMHO against the
>> guidelines.)
>>
>>> $500 would allow me to partially pay for my travel expenses. I would
>>> still need to chip from my own money to pay for hotel.
>> Please comment on the above concerns before we proceed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Peter
>>
>>
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> 
> Hola, ¿alguna noticia nueva?
> Saludos.
> Marcos Delgado.

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