Is it Friday yet? Or has ACFUG just become Robert's personal tech support line?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping fellow members of the community, that's why Cameron, Nathan and I originally founded ACFUG. But every thread lately is dedicated to solving Robert's latest problem. I understand you don't have the funds to pay someone else to do this for you or to take a class. However, I am beginning to wonder if Robert has the ability to do the work on his own, either.

Perhaps this isn't your strong suite and its time to cut your losses and find another way to solve this particular business problem? Is your time best spent on trying to figure out CF, HTML, CSS and AbleCommerce or growing your business in other ways? These are the questions I'd be asking myself if it was my business...

Yeah, that was harsh, but tough love is sometimes the best love of all.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant."
    -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Robert Reil wrote:

I have this now: I cant put up the pages without a lot of work. But I made a screen shot link.
http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/cssprobs.rtf
Im moving this to community as it seems CSS and not CF at this time. Please reply to community thread.

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 190px;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cccccc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
 float:left;
 width: 50%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

I changed the 190 px; to 390 and no change

The page code has
<div id="navBar">
then
<div id="content">

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

Sounds like your navBar "content" is wider than you're allowing for it. Even if the navBar is wrapping, the actual content block should still be showing side by side.

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then wraps down to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What would make it wrap?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE vs FF treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start with 20% and 70% until you know what your padding/margin needs are.

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

"Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?"

yes, that should do it.
Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
www.objectivedesigns.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

Not sure on the syntax on that.
Given:

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cccccc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

How would you change it?

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cccccc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?
Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs Sales&Service
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both left, with % widths set to add up to <= 100%.

Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit 100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.

Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or footer, you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a style set to "clear:both;"

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to <cfinclude>

I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the #navbar, and #content.
The page is like this:

------------------------------------
cfinclude Header.cfm
-------------------------------------
 div        |    div
#navbar |   #content
             |
-------------------------------------
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-------------------------------------

CSS shows
---------------------
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cccccc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
----------------------
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page code shows

div
#content
goo goo goo
/div

div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div

I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace "div #navbar" with "cfinclude leftnav.cfm"

Any pointers?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



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