Thank you everyone. I appreciate the comments. I agree it doesnt make sense
to reinvent the wheel. The reason I wanted to know about CMS is because a
client of mine uses custom inhouse CF built CMS and I have to add some new
features to it. As per my knowledge, I always think a person should get the
basics right before he can jump into highlevel details. There is nothing
like good foundation and thats what I was looking for. Before getting my
hands dirty with the code, I wanted an overview of how things work in a CMS.
Thanks
Ajas Mohammed.
On 4/11/07, Teddy R. Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would agree with both John and Dean here. The magnanimity of the
questions versus the usefullness of redoing the wheel.
If I were to to consider writing a CMS, I would be very interested in
capturing several pieces of data.:
The meta data on how to display a page in the templates that the user
creates
The content of each element of each portion of the layout
The change history of each edit by user and by site
Just thinking of these three topics is enough to get a CFer running around
in circles while chasing their tail and barking the whole time. In other
words, you can drive yourself rather insane trying to account for it by
yourself.
Many companies specialize in AJAX and Flex editing tools to handle a lot
of these tasks.
It would be a cool product to create for educational reasons, but it will
be hard to market it given the saturated market of CMS systems that have
matured already over several years.
I am by no means trying to deter you from seeking out knowledge, but just
be mindful of your time and effort versus billable productivity.
On 4/11/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So my assumptions are :
> 1) The CF CMS page saves the settings or properties in database.
> 2) on every new page creation from CMS, a new entry is stored in db i.e.
> index1.cfm, index2.cfm and so on.
> Then, my question is how does the page code for lets say index2.cfm gets
> generated?
>
> Ajas, these are very wide open questions. Each CMS has it's own method
> and way of doing this. For example, Katapult seems saves this info straight
> into the page (no database). Others use databases. If you are trying to
> build your own CMS, that would help put some perspective on these questions.
> If not, and you're just looking for a particular type of CMS, let us know
> your requirements and we can recommend some.
>
> John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ajas
> Mohammed
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:56 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] writing a Content Mngmt system in CF..FAQ
> or Howto?
>
> thanks guys. But my issue is not exactly about Joomla or any CMS for
> that matter. Steven, I read that doc on wikipedia before I posted here. What
> i want is some sort of diagram or doc explaining what or how the cfm or htm
> page gets created by using the info which is iam 100% sure stored somewhere
> in the database. So when the user requests index3.cfm, index3.cfm is
> actually created using values from the db cols like bgcolor, font and the
> main content, I believe is brought from another table and so on. I need
> details like these.
>
> anyone out there with these high level details??? or can you guide me to
> a doc/link.
>
> thanks,
>
> Ajas.
>
> On 4/11/07, Fennell, Mark P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I've found Katapult
> > to
> > be super simple and ridiculously easy to use... So long as you're
> > running CF on windows...
> > http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=projects/katapult
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Steven
> > Ross
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:15 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] writing a Content Mngmt system in CF..FAQ
> > or Howto?
> >
> > for your last question:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system
> >
> > not sure how Joomla works, they are all pretty much the same
> >
> > also there is a manual for joomla:
> >
> > http://help.joomla.org/images/User_manual/user_manual_v1%200%201_10%2021
> >
> > %2006.pdf
> >
> > that may help.
> >
> > On 4/11/07, Ajas Mohammed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > > I came across Joomla which is a great
> > tool
> >
> > > and I have heard of so many content management systems(CMS) written
> > in
> >
> > > CF. My question is how the application works because all a user is
> > > doing is saving some settings in the application for example lets
> > say
> > > user saves backgroundcolor property to blue, font to arial etc. Now
> > > when user views his website page lets say pagetest.cfm, this page
> > gets
> >
> > > the property of bgcolor and font from the CMS and displays it to the
> >
> > user. So my assumptions are :
> > > 1) The CF CMS page saves the settings or properties in database.
> > > 2) on every new page creation from CMS, a new entry is stored in db
> > i.e.
> > > index1.cfm, index2.cfm and so on.
> > >
> > > Then, my question is how does the page code for lets say index2.cfm
> > > gets generated? Also, I am not sure how different pages in the
> > website
> >
> > > use/get the property bgcolor, font. At runtime, I guess a query gets
> >
> > > info and dynamically generates the pages for the website.
> > >
> > > Can anybody give me a better idea or general overview from scratch
> > of
> > > how the application works? What are the things needed to develop a
> > CMS
> >
> > > and so on. I apologize if the question or my explanation is not
> > clear.
> > >
> > > Thanks
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