Well, like I said, I whitelist sites I use that don't work without JS. But I blacklist the various ad and tracking sites which are useless to me and only serve to profile my web surfing. Plus, I know where all the JS comes from now so I can limit any malicious JS because I have to specifically enable it if the site is not whitelisted.

NoScript also provides some XSS protections too... Seriously, check it out if you have any interest in security and/or privacy.

Now why in the hell would HR/IT be pissed if a user turned off JS?

-dhs


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On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:

ok, aside from the jab in the subject change, I've been curious of this. I come from inTRnet world where if a user turned JavaScript off, they could actually be visited by HR/IT enforcement. Anyhoo, in the wide world web what type of user actually disables JavaScript? Security minded folks it seems from Dean's comment, but who else? Certainly not your g'ma, eh? I suppose that's a question to ask when implementing a site or feature, does the subset of NoScripters matter to the goals of your site? Is this a question that should even be entertained in todays web? I know maybe 10 years back it was a serious one, but what about now?

On another side, this would be similar to the users who do not install Flash Player. Here though they have measured saturation, though not that scientific, seems to be somewhat dependable. Is there such data on JavaScript?


DK

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Dean H. Saxe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm one of those users. NoScript is a very good extension if you want to know what marketing companies and other unsavory types are harvesting your surfing habits to target advertising. I enable scripting on a whitelist of trusted sites only.

-dhs


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On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:

My first thought is...disable the submit button after its mashed once. My second thought is, some people disable JavaScript. Now, what type of user disables JavaScript? Would that type of user go 'mash the button crazy', does it really matter then? If so, could use Flash(read Flex). Aside from that, maybe some sort of random key deal that you could test server side, if the key is inprocess, do nothing, ow process. But the upload issue might still be there as this occurs before your CFM processing does. I might re-factor the UI putting document uploads on a separate view from the data input.

hope the rambling helps... :)


DK

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Jeff Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm working on an application where a form is submitted along with various attachments (doc, pdf, xls, etc). Apparently users are submitting the same request several times and I've been asked to address this issue. At first thought, it seemed quick and simple to me, but as I've started working on it I can't decide exactly how to handle the attachments in associated with the form in the most efficient way.

That brings me here. I was looking for suggestions on how to handle the attachments while I run validation on the db to see if the input from the form already exists in the db. It seems like something that would be perfect for AJAX to handle, but my AJAX skills are virtually nonexistent. So, without using AJAX (or if you can break it down using AJAX for a novice) how would you handle the situation?

The main issue I'm having, is that if I do the validation after the form submission, CF is assigning a temp directory to my attachment file. So what is submitted as this: "C:\Documents and Settings \JHoward\Desktop\PO Request mods.doc" ends up as this after submission and validation: "C:\ColdFusion8\runtime\servers \coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\neotmp13963.tmp " and then when I pass it to the CFFILE, it tells me the file doesn't exist.

I'm really just looking at the different ways other people would handle this situation to try and decide so any input would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

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