Should have put a smiley on my use of "security goons".  :-)

I appreciate the value of security.  However, in this case, I believe
that they really are false positives.

BTW, I would love to have a copy of your preso.  Please send it
off-list (or post a link).  Many thanks.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Dean H. Saxe
<[email protected]> wrote:
> They may be doing automated scanning resulting in false positives. Have a
> manual review completed to rule out false positives.  This is a serious
> concern, however, and should be addressed in all development projects. If
> you wish I can sendiut a copy of my MAX preso where I address CSRF. Also see
> CSRFGuard from OWASP for an implementation in Java which you can reference.
>
> And us "security goons" are trying to protect those "clueless developers"
> from themselves.  ;-)
>
> -dhs
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:39 AM, "Gerry Gurevich" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info Shawn.  We've got someone looking at your
>> solution.  I just realized that I hadn't posted the link to the
>> solution that we were looking at in my original post.  here it is:
>>
>> http://www.12robots.com/index.cfm/2008/8/25/Request-Forgeries-and-ColdFusion--Security-Series-9
>>
>> I assume you are doing something similar.
>>
>> FWIW, I'm looking into this for a colleague and what he is telling me
>> is that the security goons are scanning his site and labeling it
>> vulnerable even though the pages that they are hitting with this
>> vulnerability are not action pages.  Doesn't seem like a real problem
>> in that case to me.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, shawn gorrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are ways to do it for forms and urls. In fact, I have a fully baked
>>> implementation of a mitigation in my Tardis framework. The approach is
>>> simple, have each page request a token (nonce) from a security component
>>> and
>>> add it as a hidden to your form, or append it to any url inside your app
>>> and
>>> then check on the next request to make sure that the token was passed,
>>> and
>>> that it has never been used before. This also prevents double-submits.
>>> Let
>>> me know if you'd like a go-to for the code...
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gerry Gurevich <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:59:50 PM
>>> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Cross Site Forgery Question
>>>
>>> Sorry, I posted to the wrong list initially.  Here is my question for
>>> the discussion list:
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been asked to investigate this by someone at my company.  They
>>> found this link as a CF solution.  Do you all have any thoughts or
>>> opinions on the value of this approach?  It seems to only work for
>>> form submit actions.  What would you do if you had a link to an
>>> action page?  How would you mitigate against this type of attack?
>>>
>>> Your thoughts are appreciated.
>>>
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