One last suggestion - I fully agree with what Howard and Frank wrote.  But, 
before you go doing a lot of work trying to "mobilize" your site, I would 
strongly suggest looking in your web logs to determine what type of mobile 
devices are hitting your site.  You can do this in a number of ways - analyze 
the logs of your own webserver to determine the user client and operating 
systems being used, get free log analysis software (such as 
http://awstats.sourceforge.net/) - I'm sure there are others.  If you're not 
opposed to it, google analytics also provides some nice updates for determining 
what type of mobile browsers are hitting your site.  I'd run at least a few 
weeks worth of analysis to find out the extent of mobile usage on your site.  
If most people are using smartphones such as iphones or android devices, then 
you may not need to do a thing.  If people are using older flip phone browsers, 
then you're looking into a whole new set of criteria.

Just wanted to say all that so you don't just blindly spend a lot of time, 
money and resources on something that may not be necessary.  Find what's being 
used the most, get your hands on a couple of those devices, test our site on 
those and then decide the plan of action.

Allen

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kristine keigan
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] redirect to mobile version using a php page.

thanks, guys.  all good news. With your comments, I feel a lot more confident 
about my direction for mobilizing my site.  Most of my pages won't need to be 
mobilized and we follow most of the guidelines for phones already (not a lot of 
javascript, not heavy in manipulating stuff via css although some css is ok and 
simple html coding.  I think the majority of the pages will work just fine, but 
there is a site we found www.bmobilized.com<http://www.bmobilized.com> that can 
instantly turn your site into mobile ready only when they are on their phones 
with an option to have them bounce back to the main site if they want to rather 
than use the "mobilized" site.  I don't know if we'll use them or another like 
site, but we're looking into it.  Turns out that site is NOT good for 
login-based sites like my main site, but might work for another site we have 
for a different business.

Thanks again.

kristine

On Oct 11, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Frank Moorman wrote:


I also agree with the thought of not creating a different site...

If your site is coded with an eye towards web standards, it should appear 
decent and functional in any browser. The only real concern for mobile browsers 
is screen resolution. However, even this should be treated without grouping 
things as a "mobile" browser; after all can you tell the difference between a 
phone and a tablet(which would have a large screen)?

My personal thoughts are to only consider screen resolution when creating a 
website that may be used by mobile browsers. However, even this may be moot 
because mobile devices usually allow the end-user to zoom.

I know for a fact that some of my websites have been used by people on their 
phone. I do have two words of advice:
   1) Avoid extensive javascript (if possible, because that is the most likely 
to be unsupported); and,
   2) Trim your input fields. I noticed that both android and iphone users on 
my website will tend to have a space added to words that are auto-completed(or 
spell-corrected) from their phone.




On 10/11/2011 12:02 AM, Howard Fore wrote:

Keep in mind this article is from 2005. Much of his advice is not at all what I 
would do (and am doing) today. Is your site templatized? If so, use CFWURFL to 
sniff the the mobile users and then set a request flag to determine if the 
users get the mobile or "normal" templates.



I also greatly disagree with the advice to create a standalone site for mobile. 
This destroys your position in search engines for mobile users. It also pushes 
the mobile users into a ghetto of different functionality. It's better to treat 
them as you would a different class of desktop browser (you know...IE).



My two cents...



Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:34 PM, kristine keigan 
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:



I'm working on making a webpage more friendly for mobile devices. I found this 
"simple" step to convert a webpage to mobile friendly with some php.



Question is....I know nothing about php. Does my server need software? Does it 
need some sort of utilities or tools in order to run php or can I simply create 
a php page and have it work just I would an html page?



All my pages are .cfm on my own server so I'm wondering if this possible 
solution will work for us.



Here's the article I'm referencing:



http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/make-your-site-mobile-friendly



kristine



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