I thought I would share what I saw today which is really surprising. So When I run wsconfig tool as administrator, I see sites : All, site1, site2 and under D:\ColdFusion9\runtime\lib\wsconfig folder, I see 1, 2, 3 folders which matches All, site1, site2. The reason the folders 2 and 3 were created is because I didnt select ALL sites the time I ran wsconfig to configure site1 and site2. The reason I did this is because I wanted each site to have its own pool of requests i.e. 25 or 50 whatever you set.
Now there was a new site added recently. So per documentation, I ran wsconfig as administrator and selected ADD on first screen, and on next screen, I selected ALL this time (because the CF documentation says so). So, once the configuration tool completes, I was expecting folders 1,2,3,4 under D:\ColdFusion9\runtime\lib\wsconfig . The tool finished running and sure enough I saw folder 4. I was like all is well. After few minutes, that folder 4 was gone/deleted automatically. The site/cfm page seems to be served fine. I am just baffled that the folder dissapeared just like that. Has anyone seen this? If it had not created folder 4, I would have been OK thinking, well it added configuration under folder 1 because I selected ALL site while configuring this new site. The creation of folder 4 and that folder dissapearing has raised few doubts in my mind. Thanks, <Ajas Mohammed /> iUseDropbox(http://db.tt/63Lvone9) http://ajashadi.blogspot.com We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. You can't improve what you don't measure. Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Charlie Arehart <char...@carehart.org>wrote: > Ah, ok. Well, the issue is that that document was written when CF 9.0.1 > (or as it called itself there, “ColdFusion 9 update 1”) was released. > > The information it states was true then, a few years ago. They just did > not think to go back and update it as they created hotfixes after the fact. > And one could argue they could/should have been more clear and says “yes, > at least those that are available as of xxxx date when the 9.0.1 installers > were built.” > > So we see here how this is a pernicious problem with respect to anything > you read. I see people relying on old blog posts or form threads from years > ago, who assume that they state what is true (“they can’t say anything > that’s not true on the internet”, right?), but they don’t consider that it > may have been true then but is no longer. It may be because versions of > software change, it may be because understanding about how things work has > changed (for that writer, or for the community, and so on). > > More than anything, I’d argue that this stems from people being rather > lazy in their writing, as above in the technote Ajas mentions. People need > to write more carefully knowing that what they say may stand for years. And > if folks wondered why I wrote so much when I do, that’s as much part of the > reason as anything. People generally need the full context to really > understand things. At least, that’s how I see it. :-) > > > > /charlie > > > > *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *Ajas > Mohammed > *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:37 AM > > *To:* discussion@acfug.org > *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] wsconfig - CF 9.0.1 Windows 2008 R2 IIS 7 > > > > Hi, > > I was really misled (or perhaps misread it) by this URL earlier, > http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/faq-coldfusion-9-0-update.html#main_Is_the_latest_security_hot_fix. > I knew I had read this somewhere but didnt remember where. So looks like > all hotfix and CHF are included for 9 and not 9.0.1 which would make sense. > Is the latest security hotfix and cumulative hotfix for ColdFusion 9 > included in ColdFusion 9 Update 1? > > Yes. > > Anyway, for anyone reading this thread, the resource CFMYTHS > <http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/12/11/cfmyths_latest_installer_includes_all_updates%20>is > awesome. > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/12/11/cfmyths_latest_installer_includes_all_updates > > <http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/12/11/cfmyths_latest_installer_includes_all_updates>. > I learned a lot from this post. > > I would recommend people to start from there and then proceed to other > things. Like Charlie said, you can find the CHFs: > http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/hot-fixes-coldfusion-9.html. > > > > Thanks Charlie, I always learn a great deal from your every single post. I > mean it. > > Thanks, > > > <Ajas Mohammed /> > > iUseDropbox(http://db.tt/63Lvone9) > http://ajashadi.blogspot.com > We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. > No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. > You can't improve what you don't measure. > Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, > sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents > the wise choice of many alternatives. > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Ajas Mohammed <ajash...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks again, I kind of knew I was asking for trouble with that question. > :=) > > I totally understand what you are referring to, in fact, I would take it > as part complement, when you refer to my posts. I wouldnt take offense to > your email, I have learned a lot from Esp Your emails. > > I might have missed obvious but my main concern was if the last hot fix > was cumulative or not. I could not confirm it via adobe site earlier, maybe > I was rushing through it. Your comments make sense. > > Thanks again, > > On Nov 6, 2013 9:47 PM, "Charlie Arehart" <char...@carehart.org> wrote: > > Wow, Ajas, the answer is that it’s ABSOLUTELY NOT “the case”. > > When you get ANY release of CF, it DOES NOT come with “all the updates”. > And as for 9.0.1 specifically, there were 4 CHFs and many individual > security fixes since it was released. The same is true for all releases. > > FWIW, I addressed this issue you’re raising in a 2010 blog entry (with > more detail): > > “CFMyths: "When I download CF to install it from scratch, it has the > latest fixes/updaters" > > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/12/11/cfmyths_latest_installer_includes_all_updates > > I do mention there where you can find the CHFs: > http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/hot-fixes-coldfusion-9.html. > > Of course, do be careful applying them, as things can break. I discuss > that at length here: > > “CF911: Are you finding CF (or CF Admin) busted after applying a hotfix? A > few possible reasons” > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2011/10/21/why_chfs_may_break > > There is some good news for you, though, Ajas: if you do apply CF 9.0.1 > CHF4, you will get all the individual, cumulative, AND security hotfixes at > once. That latter point is new in CF 901 CHF4, in that it includes security > updates. Previously, CHFs only included the previous hotfixes, not security > updates. I realize that may sound great, but it can be a blessing and a > curse. For many people, when they apply all security updates, they find > that things do break. I discussed that as part of another entry: > > “CF911: New Adobe document about #ColdFusion security hotfixes: required > reading, I'd say” > > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2013/5/21/new_adobe_summary_of_security_hotfix_tweaks > > I do realize that many folks, especially who don’t spend much time in all > this stuff, can easily misunderstand things, which is of course why I write > the things I do, and in the depth I do. > > Finally, with all due (and sincere) respect to Ajas, when someone of his > experience, so otherwise knowledgeable in the ways of CF administration > (judging from his emails here and elsewhere) asks such a question, we > really do have to shudder to think what the average developer/admin is > assuming :-( > > I guess that’s partly why I’m so busy in my CF server troubleshooting! But > as you guys here see, I try (and try) to point out resources to help people > avoid such problems and misconceptions…at least for those with the temerity > to read more than a paragraph! :-) Fortunately Ajas has always been up to > the challenge, so I trust both that he will have read to this point, and > that he will take the information to hear (and accept my comment of the > last paragraph in the spirit intended). > > More than that, I trust that he will now help others who may ever raise > this same question. Hope others may get a chance to do the same. We’re all > in this together. :-) > > /charlie > > > > *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *Ajas > Mohammed > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:35 PM > *To:* discussion@acfug.org > *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] wsconfig - CF 9.0.1 Windows 2008 R2 IIS 7 > > > > In terms of security, for CF 9.0.1, do I need to install anything like > hotfixes & patches? I thought everything was included in the 9.0.1 updates, > is that not the case? > > Can someone point me to link for hotfixes & security patches for CF 9.0.1. > > Thanks, > > > <Ajas Mohammed /> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by FusionLink <http://www.fusionlink.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by FusionLink <http://www.fusionlink.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------- >
