Hmmmmm. So SVN with daily backups (one place I was at did svn backups every 6 hours) is pointless? So if there was a system meltdown, we were less than an hour away from being back up with minimal possible loss. Actually there would most likely be no loss since every developer has full code sets.
So what does Mr. Torvalds recommend for version control? I recall a system that uses all developer machines as possible servers. One is designated the main server (usually a server box and not a developer box). If that one goes down it automatically switches to another users box as the main holding place. I don't remember the name, but I do remember it being VERY riddled with issues and even with that software they recommended the main holding place being a server. So what is wrong with SVN with backups at a minimum of daily? Dale From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Schneider Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFFUG Discuss] team coding To paraphrase Linus Torvalds ( credited with creating the Linux kernel and git version control) "subversion is probably the most pointless project ever" My take: a central server holding you code base is a central point of failure. If you have a subversion server now, maintain it. But if you dont have something setup you would be insane to choose subversion over git. Jed Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Ajas Mohammed <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the clarification Charlie. It makes sense now. I was about to hit send on my do not agree email. ;-) Without Version Control, the development process is dangerous. You can do it but with constant threat of big issues or huge manual process. SVN is the way to go if you want to do *ANY* kind of development or coding. Thanks Cameron for your post. It was very helpful. <Ajas Mohammed /> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. You can't improve what you don't measure. Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Eric Minor <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally disagree. With a version control system like SVN, the problems > you mentioned above would be resolve. I work in a shared development > environment with a total of 13 programmers. We all work in parallel on one > project. Svn manages any conflicts and keep our code in sync. For large > projects, I highly recommend SVN coupled with good project management skills > for more efficient software development. It's rare that the same solution fits all cases, so there is certainly room for interpretation. However, working on ColdFusion code on one central server does present alot of challenges when different members of the team are editing files such as Application.cfc or other core includes. This can be managed in some cases, but there are plenty of situations where someone edits a file central to the entire app which puts everyone's work at a halt for a period of time. Working on a central server and giving each developer their own folder and/or port, or setting up CF as multi-instance are good ways to keep developers from stepping on each other's toes too. For my teams, more recently we're just about always setup to do development on each local workstation. Local workstation development is particularly valuable when team members may be working remotely some or all of the time, or intermittently connected. Doing development from an airplane is difficult when using a shared server, for example. In the end though, there is no "one uber solution" - it's what works best for your team. YMMV. -Cameron ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, simply email the list with unsubscribe in the subject line For more info, see http://www.affug.com Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40affug.com/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, simply email the list with unsubscribe in the subject line For more info, see http://www.affug.com Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40affug.com/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
