"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If Debian has been fixing these errors, please explain why it is > hosting non-free software,
'We acknowledge that some of our users require the use of works that do not conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. We have created "contrib" and "non-free" areas in our archive for these works. The packages in these areas are not part of the Debian system, although they have been configured for use with Debian.' -- http://www.fr.debian.org/social_contract > and still adding more non-free software there. Most notably, Sun Java. I don't understand why some debian delegates added Sun Java, especially under those nasty terms. > This is obviously not an error, since it is perfectly a valid practise > within Debian and is condoned by the Debian project. The addition of Sun Java to Debian has not been condoned. Another wild accusation without evidence. > > > > So, roughly equivalent to Debian's main archive. There are > > > > other "Fedora foo" archives containing other things. > > > > > > Can you point me to these `other archives'? > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/WeeklyReports/ lists some. > > Oh please, you quote a wiki. Then I guess that if someone makes a > link to ftp.microsoft.com when posting to a GNU list then GNU is > hosting non-free software. Stop this absurdities. I expect GNU does host non-free software somewhere, but I don't know whether ftp.microsoft.com runs GNU, so I don't see the relevance of that. > Atleast have the decency to quote offical material. The wiki seems to be official material. I'm not exactly happy with that, so I quoted another, which was deleted unmarked. It's much more substantial than anything quoted to support the allegations against debian. > > Of course debian supports non-free software. > > And recommend its usage. We agree. Great. No, debian does not recommend or depend on non-free software. (debian-policy s2.2.1, yet again) > > GNU supports non-free software, although I expect the GNU project > > tells you not to use it. Can a product condone something? > > You make silly claims without fact again and again, it is boring. > Shove proof. Where does GNU support non-free software? Anywhere where non-free software for GNU is run. Odd question. > > > equally bad in this regard, since both contain non-free software. > > > Sorry, that's incorrect. Get yourself a CD of the official release > > and try to find any. > > What the CD's contain isn't relevant. It is the action of Debian that > matters. The CDs are debian. They are the ultimate action of the debian project. > I'd go on an equal rampage if the FSF started doing the same. I somewhat doubt it, but I hope we never find out. -- MJR/slef Laux nur mia opinio: vidu http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Bv sekvu http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list [email protected] https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
