* MJ Ray wrote, On 02/11/07 14:22: > simo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:40 +0100, Reinhard Mueller wrote: >> >>> Yes, he is. And more than that, he is one of the modern spam bots that >>> is able to subscribe to mailman mailing lists. :-( >>> >>> If this problem gets worse, we have to think about a solution. >>> >> Captcha on subscribe, it's becoming necessary :( >> > > Please do *NOT* put a bloody eyetest on this mailing list. That will > almost certainly lock out people like me, while allowing in some > robots with visual-recognition code. If you want to test spamminess, > then eyesight and hearing have little to do with that. If anything, > I suspect spammers probably average better on eyesight and hearing > tests than the general population these days ;-) I have met one user > who read by touch, with solenoids pushing on fingers and I think I've > seen braille strip output devices in the past - why should we lock > such people out or give them second-class service unnecessarily? > Not a lot of people think about that; being focussed on how to deny access rather than grant it (which is often never thought about). > I believe the best test would be to put new members on moderation-hold > until they make some sensible posts. (Ultimately, who cares if it's a > bot if it's posting relevant stuff? ;-> ) Shouldn't the FSFE be > following best practice instead of false sense of security? > http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest#security > Makes sense to me.
Many forum-ish things have level of member ship. If any level member can grant kudos to a lowlier member, such as by approving posts (until they are high enough to be self approved) then we may have a low-effort system. Sam
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